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  • #82727
    slyp98
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    Prob here grill and fan oven not working touch control top is working fine , i have a live bit no neutral coming from the main pcb anyone have any experience of this the pcb is 170 quid , id like to find out what’s stopping it sending a neutral

    #420668
    iadom
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    Re: electrolux ekt 6045x no elements working

    And one last BUMP. 😆

    #420669
    slyp98
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    Re: electrolux ekt 6045x no elements working

    Bump again

    #420670
    Hollytree_Technical
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    Re: electrolux ekt 6045x no elements working

    I don’t know the unit so am working off of the diagrams here.

    Do you have a neutral to BR7 on the PCB?

    If the unit had reversed polarity to the diagram I would suggest a relay failure to BR1/BR2 or blown cut out.

    From the diagram it appears to be a double oven, does either oven work, what about motors and lights?

    Can you post a decent quality photo of each side of the PCB (I would like to be able to read the writing) in which case I may be able to give you a couple more pointers.

    Jem

    #420671
    slyp98
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    Re: electrolux ekt 6045x no elements working

    Hey Jem, i don’t have pcb pics sorry the interface display lights up and all the functions can be selected , grill, top oven ,defrost, main oven etc , but the top oven and grill will not start to work nothing it looks like its in according to the interface but no motors or elements are being powered up, the main oven works fine as do the hob plates , i cant be 100{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} but it seems to lead back to the main pcb power board there are 2 boards near the 220v incoming supply positioned on the rear of the main oven cavity i can find a live going out but no neutral, there are also 3 hob area boards but i think its safe to say that if the main oven control is ok then the top oven /grill func is ok too its all touch control stuff

    #420672
    Hollytree_Technical
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    Re: electrolux ekt 6045x no elements working

    According to the diagrams the hobs are effectively a separate appliance with their own control and power PCBs which means that we can ignore them.

    I take if from what you are saying that the lower oven works fine and that it is just the top oven that has failed.

    The elements share a common live connection to each other which comes through a 180C thermal cut out from BF6 on the PCB (this is controlled by one relay).

    The neutrals for the elements are individually switched by relays on the PCB, the neutral connection to the PCB is fed in on BF3 (a different connection to the one for the main oven).

    Have you checked the PCB for dry joints? It would be strange for 3 relays to fail at once.

    If you have checked that the wiring is as stated above and the PCB joints look good then I would double check the sensor.

    The top oven sensor is the same type as the one for the main oven so it may be worth quickly swapping them to confirm that it is not a sensor issue.

    If none of the above works then I can’t help you any further without photos as that is as deep as the diagrams go.

    Jem

    #420673
    electrofix
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    Re: electrolux ekt 6045x no elements working

    this is a long shot but does this oven have a demo mode?

    Dave

    #420674
    slyp98
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    Re: electrolux ekt 6045x no elements working

    Thanks Jem , i will go back and recheck the pcb and the sensor i take it its a ptc do you know values and ill take a few photos of the main board

    #420675
    slyp98
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    Re: electrolux ekt 6045x no elements working

    electrofix wrote:this is a long shot but does this oven have a demo mode?

    Dave
    dunno im sure it does Dave , also read somewhere it could be locked in timer mode but im sure the times would have to be set at some stage

    #420676
    slyp98
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    Re: electrolux ekt 6045x no elements working

    Hollytree_Technical wrote:According to the diagrams the hobs are effectively a separate appliance with their own control and power PCBs which means that we can ignore them.

    I take if from what you are saying that the lower oven works fine and that it is just the top oven that has failed.

    The elements share a common live connection to each other which comes through a 180C thermal cut out from BF6 on the PCB (this is controlled by one relay).

    The neutrals for the elements are individually switched by relays on the PCB, the neutral connection to the PCB is fed in on BF3 (a different connection to the one for the main oven).

    Have you checked the PCB for dry joints? It would be strange for 3 relays to fail at once.

    If you have checked that the wiring is as stated above and the PCB joints look good then I would double check the sensor.

    The top oven sensor is the same type as the one for the main oven so it may be worth quickly swapping them to confirm that it is not a sensor issue.

    If none of the above works then I can’t help you any further without photos as that is as deep as the diagrams go.

    Jem Hi Jem , went annd took a few pics today , on closer inspection none of the ovens work top or bottom ,hob is working fine ,i checked board over no sign of anything wrong , so has to be control board i have a few pics ill try upload em here https://onedrive.live.com/?cid=C3D31F04DC83B722&id=C3D31F04DC83B722{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d}212950&parQt=allmyphotos&parId=root&v=3https://onedrive.live.com/?cid=C3D31F04DC83B722&id=C3D31F04DC83B722{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d}212945&parQt=allmyphotos&parId=root&v=3

    #420677
    Hollytree_Technical
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    Re: electrolux ekt 6045x no elements working

    I can’t access the photos.

    Jem

    #420678
    slyp98
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    Re: electrolux ekt 6045x no elements working

    How do i upload them directly from my oc anyone know

    #420679
    Martin
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    Re: electrolux ekt 6045x no elements working

    slyp98 wrote:How do i upload them directly from my oc anyone know

    Huh?

    Using your browser then click on ‘upload attachment’
    Using Tapatalk click on ‘Photo Album’

    Simples! 😀

    #420680
    slyp98
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    Re: electrolux ekt 6045x no elements working

    Don’t get it i installed tapatalk on my windows phone and i have the forum in the menu list but when i hit browse below nothing happens help

    #420681
    Martin
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    Re: electrolux ekt 6045x no elements working

    slyp98 wrote:Don’t get it i installed tapatalk on my windows phone and i have the forum in the menu list but when i hit browse below nothing happens help

    I have enough trouble helping you fix appliances without adding your computer issues to my list, sorry. 🙁

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