Electrolux EWD1409.I ..ELE?

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  • #51991
    iadom
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    Another built in nightmare, couldn’t get it out due to laminated flooring. 😥

    Machine fills for a few seconds, starts to tumble and then fill again. After about 20 seconds it then stops with Start/Pause light flashing.

    Tried to get it into diagnostic mode but got ELE in the display. 😕

    Reset to a wash programme and then selected position 10 to read last error and got E36.
    ‘Sensing’ circuit of anti boil p/sw 1 faulty.

    Also when set to drain or spin the pump runs for a second or two then shuts off. You have to keep switching it on and off to drain it out to the lowest level and then the pump will run correctly.

    Question.

    Is this likely to be a faulty anti boil p/sw ( wherever it is) or are loose connections a more likely cause?

    Jim.

    #310211
    admin
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    Re: Electrolux EWD14091 ..ELE?

    Hi Jim,
    This is one of examples that I’ve wrote on that post with electronic repair… 😈

    I Suppose that is EWD1409I 😳 with EWM2000Evo (full electronic) board than:
    – first of all check for earth leakage from all heaters;
    check pressure switch (change);
    – than look on PCB on connector J3 at pin3 (J3.3) and also at J3 pin5 (J3.5) on both legs has to be on each two rezistors of 470KOhms (yelow/violet/yelow marked) check them… with multimeter … for quality measurements (because is hard to explain in detail) disconnect one resistor terminal and check than…

    8)

    #310212
    iadom
    Moderator

    Re: Electrolux EWD14091 ..ELE?

    Thanks Adrian, when they eventually get it out I will go back. The machine has been very little used, only just over two years old, the dryer side has been used on two or three occasions only.

    The PCB’s on Zanussi machines do seem to have become far less reliable in the last year or so. 😥

    Any idea as to why I saw ELE in the display?

    Jim.

    #310213
    boselecta
    Participant

    between taking the machine in and out of diagnostic mode ELE is shown in the display.

    #310214
    iadom
    Moderator

    Re: Electrolux EWD14091 ..ELE?

    I thank you. 8)

    #310215
    admin
    Keymaster

    boselecta wrote:between taking the machine in and out of diagnostic mode ELE is shown in the display.

    Like in all models after getting out from service regime you have to turn OFF and ON twice whithout taking in consideration what’s happen. Just after that he will be on user mode…

    #310216
    admin
    Keymaster

    Re: Electrolux EWD14091 ..ELE?

    iadom wrote: The machine has been very little used, only just over two years old…
    The PCB’s on Zanussi machines do seem to have become far less reliable in the last year or so. 😥

    They had lucky to use so much… 😈 because just yesterday I diagnosed two “E-lux” machines which haven’t been sold and where dead already… completly dead (main PCB has to be change) after one connection to the main power supply… 👿

    #310217
    Beta
    Participant

    Re: Electrolux EWD14091 ..ELE?

    Hi,

    Ditto, here. Electrolux appliances seem to have gone a bit downhill.

    In the last year a have been fortunate enough to have had 26 modules to fit, thankfully they have been simple diagnosing. The usual start button green light flashing with no responce.

    Unfortunately my luck has gone, i am now working on an EWD1409I, usual green light flashing. I was surprised to find 3 modules on this machine, the control panel, the brains down below and a dryer board.

    My informant tells me the dryer boards are constantly going down and they can give the same fault of the green light. They wont even give an error code !!

    I cannot get into diagnostics either, has it changed ?

    Any help would be appreciated.

    P.S. have you noticed that more zanussi washer modules are only available unprogrammed.

    #310218
    iadom
    Moderator

    Re: Electrolux EWD14091 ..ELE?

    Must be my lucky day then, called back this afternoon, dryer element down to earth. Says she has only used the dryer side once or twice.

    Removed all of the connections to the element and it went into the wash cycle perfectly. 8)

    Jim.

    #310219
    admin
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    Re: Electrolux EWD14091 ..ELE?

    Beta wrote:P.S. have you noticed that more zanussi washer modules are only available unprogrammed.

    I didn’t notice that… 😕
    but regarding that, they have the same ability to program new boards like those from Merloni/Hotpoint, is normal… why should they produce for each model one board when they can have in stock just one type unprogrammed… 😉

    They use SideKickPC for that… 😳

    #310220
    Beta
    Participant

    Re: Electrolux EWD1409.I ..ELE?

    They produce different modules for the usual reason.

    Harder to diagnose & harder to repair. The long and the short of it is they dont want them fixed, people seem to forget these are now disposable appliances.

    The last thing the manufacturer wants is some non-genuine engineer fixing their products. This is all hidden under “Efficiency and Economy”, even the government subscribe to it.

    So, as per the appliance i am working on, EWD1409I it now has three modules. Even the e`lux engineers are having problems with them. They are down to swapping and changing the parts until it works. LOL.

    #310221
    Beta
    Participant

    Re: Electrolux EWD1409.I ..ELE?

    Sorted.

    The main wash motor was leaking to earth. Unfortunately at around £200 for a new wash motor, a bit pricey !

    Found that the diagnostics wont always work. in my example the motor to earth, set program, press green flashing start button – nothing, completely ignored. Diagnostics wont even run. I found disconnecting the earth to the motor, all was well, diagnostics and a wash ! it even went through the total spin – with no error codes !

    I tried disconnecting the wash motor and it did exactly the same thing, full spin and wash program with no error codes, even though the motor was NOT connected !

    I had the exact same machine in the warehouse, so i borrowed some parts. I left the module in diagnostics before i disconnected. When i tried the the pcb and powered it up it showed e50 !! wtf !! the pcb had diagnosed the module was faulty. Absolutely brilliant. I only tried this to confirm no other faults !

    I spoke to a zan-engineer friend, he mentioned that they have machines in the warehouse regularly because the engineers cant diagnose the faults properly, the diagnostics wont diagnose. The ones that end up in-house have to have parts swapped and changed until fixed.

    What is the point in having complicated electronics with diagnostics, when you cant use the diagnostics when there is a fault ?

    Ahh . . . this is one CRAZY planet we live on.

    Anywayz hope this info is helful to someone out there – dont trust the diagnostics.

    #310222

    Re: Electrolux EWD1409.I ..ELE?

    The Appliance of Science. 😆
    Mike.

    #310223
    Beta
    Participant

    Re: Electrolux EWD1409.I ..ELE?

    LOL.

    #310224
    iadom
    Moderator

    Re: Electrolux EWD1409.I ..ELE?

    Well I fitted a new dryer element to mine a couple of days ago and it worked a treat. That does however confirm that the error codes should be viewed with caution. 😉

    Jim.

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