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October 21, 2020 at 9:31 pm #98517
jontymox
ParticipantGood evening all,
I fitted a new heater unit to the above dryer around three months ago, as it had failed.
However, the TOC has now fused on the replacement heater.
At the time, I wondered if it would be feasible to replace just the TOC on another of this customers’ tumble dryers, (they have two of the above models) as it had fused, and renewed the complete heater unit as Electrolux do not supply the TOC separately.
We agreed via this forum that it was not a good idea to fit a compatible TOC, yet now if I could obtain the genuine TOC it would make sense to replace it, rather than the complete heater assembly which costs over £100.00
The numbers on the TOC are: 36FXE24 20226 L140C A1929 which aren’t readily available online.
I cannot fathom how the above has blown, as the staff where the dryers are located agreed to clean the filter and condenser, and try not to overload the dryer. The circulation is also fine, but I would welcome some advice, as I don’t wish for these dryer/s to repeatedly fail.
Kind regards,jonty
October 21, 2020 at 9:57 pm #472668electrofix
Moderatorsince it looks like a 140 degree stat there seems to be one in hotpoint kit toc42
https://shop.ukwhitegoods.co.uk/hp66…it#description
cant be 100{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} its same spec but at least it a one shot device doing the same job in another unit
but
there needs to be a reason for failure
you will struggle to remove old stat and replace as its rivetted onto micacould be intermittant sticking relay. or anything that keeps the heater on too long
looking at design there does not seem to be any temp control at the heater. ( correction it looks like it may be hidden inside element) the other ntc is for return air. so if air flow is affected the heater may pop stat which i assume is one shot. could be return ntc faulty could even be motor stalls causing the problem but you are unlikely to find out as its not repeatable all the time
also as we have said before if anyhing serious happens and the part is not approved you will be for the high jump
Dave
October 22, 2020 at 7:02 am #472669jontymox
ParticipantGood morning Dave,
Thank you for your assistance again.
Yes, it’s a one shot TOC and it makes sense to replace just that with the correct/approved item, especially if I cannot find the reason why it has fused, and blows again.
I’ll revisit, and try and find reason for TOC popping.
Thanks again,jonty
October 22, 2020 at 8:48 am #472670jontymox
Participantp.s. It would be good to obtain the precise TOC but I’m struggling to locate such.
Do you know who makes them, as Electrolux unhelpful?
October 22, 2020 at 8:55 am #472671electrofix
Moderatorit may be on the element. Irca make a lot of the good ones but cant say who makes this
have emailed you the manuals so you can try test proceedures etc
Dave
October 22, 2020 at 3:30 pm #472672murv
ParticipantHave not seen this dryer but It’s always worth checking the value of the capacitor. If it is down by 20{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} or more I would change it.
Murv…
October 22, 2020 at 4:14 pm #472673jontymox
ParticipantThanks again gent’s,
I’ve emailed you, Dave…. thanks for the information!
Regarding the capacitor, Murv, I generally struggle to conclusively test such components, and am intrigued that this could cause the fault.(“an electrical spike?”)
jontyOctober 22, 2020 at 4:19 pm #472674jontymox
ParticipantThe heater manufacturer is Backer, so I’ll try further to see if ‘stat’s available separately.
October 22, 2020 at 7:35 pm #472675murv
ParticipantI find that safety thermostats mainly fail because of poor airflow, faulty input thermostat or less commonly a faulty timer/pcb.
Capacitors can just stop working but they usually deteriorate over time getting weaker until an observable fault results.
If the motor run capacitor is low value then the motor seems to start okay on an empty test but will struggle to get going under load resulting in a poor airflow from the circulating fan.
To test capacitors you need a multimeter with a capacitor test function. The last two Hoover/Candy dryers I serviced were both low, the 7MFD capacitors tested at 2.3MFD and 2.8MFD. One had blown the 206C thermal fuse and the other was still running but the rear of the drum was showing signs of overheating.
An Indesit today had blown the one shot because the terminals were poor and overheating. The capacitor checked at 7.8MFD which is not too bad for a 9MFD after a few years use.
Murv…
October 22, 2020 at 8:28 pm #472676jontymox
ParticipantThank you Murv,
Will test capacitor as suggested, as something must be causing TOC to fail.
Kind regards,jonty
October 23, 2020 at 8:43 am #472677neon_3SP_glow
ParticipantMake sure customer isn’t overloading machine and blocking airflow.
Also, opening the door to check if things are dry can sometimes cause issues (?) = residual heat in element and no airflow.
Always quiz/advise the customer on these things.
October 27, 2020 at 8:45 am #472678jontymox
ParticipantReplaced heater unit yesterday, having checked again for possible causes of TOC blowing…. all fine.
Thanks again for all your advice and help.
jonty
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