Engineers working contract ?

[funkyboogy]

have any you guys written one for employed engineer ?

i getting to a stage where i think i need to have something in writing ..

just wondering what other co,s do with regards to time start – finish – do you include travel time does it start at 1st customer ? .

currently we have a formal agreement that its job and finish – if they need to work later then i give them over time .

i dont know if i should not do this and advise they are expected to complete there jobs regardless – this seems a bit harsh ..

both like to get away early ie 7.30 – 8 am – which again i dont mind as long as they get work done – but i dont want to get to a position where i cant offer customer aft 3.30 as engineers start and finish early.

any help or copy of contract would be great .

i like to be informal and keep a relaxed working environment – but i feel this is get lost in translation somewhere.

ally

[admin]

Re: Engineers working contract ?

For the past about 7 years its been a legal requirement that a contract of employment is signed and in place for any employees part time or full time.. you can’t use an agreement unless its a formal contract. the employee will be able to use a tribunal for the simplist minor thing and you will have no defence and they will receive at the barest minimum one months wages even if they lose or don’t even have grounds.

We got caught out when we was helping out a so called friend a couple of years back and just had a mutual agreement for part time help.So it’s a warning to anyone who has any type of employee or help.

I can send you what we have in place from day one if you want.

Bryan

[jamieparrie]

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hello yes we donloaded one from a gov website then changed the bits n bobbies to suit our buisness.it states times ect but in reality its all job n finish so you get give an take.good to habe though so make sure they know there holidays etc and bank joliday entitelments and sick leave ect ect entitelments.
jamie

[funkyboogy]

Re: Engineers working contract ?

hi bryan

yes send what you have , ive believe you dont need a written contract , it can be as in our case verbal .

but im getting to point where i need to clarify any grey areas – we do run a tight ship and the guys know whats expected etc ,

it seems as soon as you have 2 around their is more mischief re this that and the next .

so maybe a written statement will put any mischief back in place

[admin]

Re: Engineers working contract ?

“, ive believe you dont need a written contract , it can be as in our case verbal .”

Within English employment law it’s a requirement for a written one

Bryan

[jamieparrie]

Re: Engineers working contract ?

hello.no it is not law to have one.contracts and statements are 2 simmilar but diferent things.

[admin]

Re: Engineers working contract ?

Your employment contract doesn’t have to be in writing, but you’re entitled to a written statement of the main terms within two months of starting work.

The contract lays down what you agree to.. the statement lays down what your expected to do and by accepting the wages then you’ve agreed to do it.

Jamie.. at the end of the day they come down to the same thing.. If you employ someone and you don’t have it then your screwed.. And they are normally awarded one months wages.

Bryan

[jamieparrie]

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been ther and done it like you.you are wrong bryan.
its not a legal requirment and if any instanse was taken to court,they would apply a basic contact to the case.
they are not the same thing.end of.
jamie

[iadom]

Re: Engineers working contract ?

Employment contract 😉

[jamieparrie]

Re: Engineers working contract ?

hello idom.
its not legal issue.
http://www.findlaw.co.uk/law/employment … cs/20.html
statement of work is very diferent to contract.
jamie

[funkyboogy]

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can someone email o contract if they have one ,

im more interested in how anyone else works out start – finish ect, its a hard one to call – they want ot when they work late but dont want to give back if finished early – not that i would want that ,

ive heard bosch start when you turn up at 1st customer , but pay an extra hour per day for traveling .

indesit start the clock when you leave your house and base you calls on time rather than job to finish

this isnt something that you can set in stone as theres to many variables . but i would be intrested if anyone has something written into a contract ect

thanks ally

[jamieparrie]

Re: Engineers working contract ?

hello funkybody.
to be blunt,a contract or terms are what you make it.
you are employing the guys so you dictate the terms.
If tou have anything specific woth noting,then get a contract.if not,then chil out.
jamie

[twicknix]

Re: Engineers working contract ?

A rule of thumb, if they have been doing this job in the same format for the last six months then it becomes a condition of the job description which cannot be altered without giving notice. The job description are closely tied up as employment contract so it’s important that you are clear on both.

For example the employee took on the additional role of washing his van during working times then proceeded to do his boss’s van for over six months, it is expected of him to wash his and the boss’s van and to be paid for it That role cannot change without the formal agreement between the boss and the van washing employee in writing.

This kind of thing can easily catch you out.

[funkyboogy]

Re: Engineers working contract ?

thanks god we have a car wash in next unit ,,.

i see what you mean though – its a hard one to call as i think you get the best out of anyone if you dont strangle them with red tape contracts etc .. but maybe thats the way to go ..

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