EU to make manufacturers make appliances more repairable

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  • #96624
    delta01
    Participant

    Just wondering how they going to achieve that, maybe reducing the high cost of tub/drum assemblies and a general reduction in parts costs anyone heard anything thanks John

    #464137
    electrofix
    Moderator

    its really in the discussion stage at the moment but if it comes to pass it could be a win win for our industry as part of idea means making the repair info more readily available

    even if it goes ahead there will be a lead in time to allow the manufacturers to adjust

    Dave

    #464138
    kwatt
    Keymaster

    It will come to pass, they’ve stated so. 😉

    Manufacturers will have to start planning now I imagine as they’ve really only got a couple of years.

    Sealed units are going to be a no-no, be it tanks, fridge doors and so on that need taken apart to repair.

    Parts have to be available for ten years and within 15 days if memory serves.

    It doesn’t go far enough as cost isn’t addressed but that will come I expect.

    K.

    #464139
    electrofix
    Moderator

    so hopefully this is the end off the complete door replacements at £200

    Dave

    #464140
    kwatt
    Keymaster

    Exactly that.

    K.

    #464141
    wilf
    Participant

    dont hold your breath!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    wilf

    #464142
    kwatt
    Keymaster

    It is going to become a legal requirement so manufacturers will be compelled to comply and I’d not like to be the first that doesn’t, then gets crucified by the EU as an example.

    In the end, it’s the right thing to do for many reasons.

    It’s also far greater in scope than just appliances, appliances are just the start of it.

    But, if the UK somehow ever sorts Brexit and we do leave and do not maintain regulatory alignment with the EU which, as things stand looks extremely unlikely on this score, then we may not get the benefit of this in the UK. 🙁

    K.

    #464143
    wilf
    Participant

    so when their telly packs up they will get it mended and not upgrade to the latest with all the new whistles and bells. same with computers phones etc. the only way this will happen is if the price of new goes up a lot and the price of mending goes down a lot. good luck with that.

    wilf

    #464144
    kwatt
    Keymaster

    Correct.

    If this legislation has the desired effect then prices of new will rise, it’s inevitable as makers will have to fund the legacy support and the intent being to make products last longer = less waste.

    K.

    #464145
    kwatt
    Keymaster

    And here is the very real danger, the UK decides that we’re just not going to bother…

    The link to the article is:

    https://greenallianceblog.org.uk/2019/10/31/its-a-dereliction-of-duty-for-the-uk-not-to-participate-in-eu-standards-discussions/

    Sorry for the political nature of this, not something I normally do on here but it is utterly infuriating that something I and the WTA among others such as the Restart Project, have been battling to get for over a decade to help the repair industry and consumers may well be scuppered by political machinations surrounding Brexit that think somehow it’s a good idea to just not bother turning up.

    So, whilst we may well get this, if we don’t leave the EU, we’ve had bugger all input and the UK is completely unrepresented.

    And if we do leave, this will hardly be a priority, I’ve just a feeling there might be bigger fish to fry.

    Maybe I’m just not believing enough. :rolleyes:

    K.

    #464146
    electrofix
    Moderator

    the hope is that because lots of our appliances are also sold in the eu or made in the eu that manufacturers wont alter things just for the uk so we will get this by the back door so to speak
    On a political note this election is going to be interesting, and a gauge of public opinion of the main parties, but you will always get the tribal voters who wont change so we will see
    An election fought on the 12 Dec and the results on Friday 13th mmmm

    Dave

    #464147
    kwatt
    Keymaster

    It will yes.

    But… 😉

    With no way to enforce it in UK law brands can just do what they like, as they do now within the UK and, given they’re all UK or UK subsidiaries that doesn’t bode well.

    I’d expect many to comply, especially the actual makers and their brands but all the rest, hell knows.

    I’m a political junkie, don’t get me started on that. 😉

    K.

    #464148
    electrofix
    Moderator

    They may not comply here but if the machines use the same spares then people like aswo will import them anyway hopefully

    Dave

    #464149
    kwatt
    Keymaster

    That’s my problem Dave in one word, “hopefully”. 🙁

    No way to enforce it.

    K.

    #464150
    scots
    Participant

    Many machines are made in PRC and Turkey and they are both outside of the EU, will they have to comply if this comes to pass?

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