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March 23, 2012 at 9:22 pm #371914
kwatt
KeymasterRe: fault code guide
Under the rules of the various stores we cannot limit distribution.
I did present at the meeting exactly what we would earn from it, which isn’t much. I won’t be becoming a millionaire from it unless we happen to sell tens of thousands of copies.
The VAT man takes his slice.
The app stores take 30{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d}.
The developer takes 30{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d}.
Doesn’t leave much does it?
The old FCG was on torrent sites before I made it available, basically, for free. So, someone did release it into that underworld and, in all honesty, it was pointless trying to find out who.
K.
March 23, 2012 at 9:49 pm #371915Martin
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I cant see why Squady is getting so hot under the collar over the FCG. Its new format available as an app, constantly updateable, has to be the way forward. Congrats go to Ken for going to all this trouble I say. But hold up, take stock, do, its only a fault code guide, not the bloody Holy Grail. Fault codes are a clue NOT a cure and in many cases can send the clueless on right up the garden path in no time at all.
If this stuff gets out in the public domain then so be it…..no big deal :rolls:
March 24, 2012 at 12:05 am #371916squadman
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Martin, I am not getting hot under the collar about this, far from it, I am just trying to understand the thinking behind the decision to port this resource into the public domain, by which I mean that although it may be available on some torrent sites it would hardly be sought after amongst all the other offerings on such sites. By it being available in the App Store many many more people will be exposed to it and a little knowledge can be a dangerous thing,
Who was it that said Never Give Riffles to the Natives ?
Sure thanks go to Ken and everyone else who compiled the info for the FCG and then for bringing it into a useable publication for the greater benefit of Indie Engineers and if UKWG earns any amount of money from it after overheads then good luck to them!
March 24, 2012 at 8:24 am #371917stevebunyan
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I get many customers that phone up that have already done some research, found the fault code, tried to sort the problem and then found they don’t either have the practical skill or knowledge to complete the repair.
At this stage they are only more than happy to pay me to repair it.And I think it helps the customer to realise our value.
So am not concerned at all.
Sent from Steves
iPhone using TapatalkMarch 24, 2012 at 8:56 am #371918Martin
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squadman wrote:Who was it that said Never Give Riffles to the Natives ?
Is that some sort of code….? I’m only jesting as ever. :clown:
Here’s another one just as relevant: “give them enough rope”
Conversely I find Joe Public having this knowledge has helped me out tremendously. Especially when some herbert rings my mobile whilst I’m hurtling down the M4 to tell me he has a Hotpoint and has found on the Interweb that the flashing lights me error code F08. That priceless information gained allows me right there and then to tell him what his next move should be. ๐
March 24, 2012 at 10:57 am #371919squadman
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Eitherway Chaps I still cannot see any value or reason why the FCG would be made public, nothing we can do about it anyway, what the heck !
April 1, 2012 at 10:03 pm #371920Beever
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Most of the Bosch codes in the FCG app are wrong anyway, would love to see someone diagnose a motor fault on a WFL with that fault guide. LMAO
Not had chance to look at the other brands on it yet.April 1, 2012 at 10:51 pm #371921kwatt
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Well of course if BSH would do the right thing and share the info…
Oh, that’s right, they don’t do they? ๐
K.
April 2, 2012 at 7:09 am #371922funkyboogy
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i suppose like all apps there will be an a chance to put adverts on at opertune moments maybe search @ ukw will pop up – customer finds out they cant repair themselves – puts there post code in – and bingo a new job for ukw/wta member.
yours hopefully
ally
April 2, 2012 at 7:16 am #371923Martin
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Beever wrote:Most of the Bosch codes in the FCG app are wrong anyway, would love to see someone diagnose a motor fault on a WFL with that fault guide. LMAO
It a shame that all you can do is laugh over a slight error in the FCC Mr Beever. We would indeed appreciate the valuable input that you as an ex BSH guy could maybe bring in correcting the situation. My colleagues and I go to great lengths in ensuring as much information is as accurate and up to date as it could possibly be. And any errors rectified as quickly as is possible.
I do acknowledge that the WFL listing is incorrect though only a very minor modification is required to rectify the situation. Namely, the LED’s headings are illustrated as ‘Spin’ ‘Rinse’ ‘Wash’ when in fact should read ‘Ready’ ‘Active’ ‘End’.
I’ve looked carefully at all the other Bosch listings and I have yet to find any other error. You stated that “Most” are wrong, therefore could I ask that you perhaps share with us those errors so they too can be corrected?
Regards
Martin
April 2, 2012 at 7:45 am #371924Beever
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I take offence at you suggesting that I was laughing at the people that had taken the time to build such an app. I was amused at the thought of a member of the public trying to diagnose any kind of fault on a WFL from that guide. The bosch machine/s use a combination of lights to indicate the fault. The guide would suggest that only one light is displayed to indicate a fault.
As for posting fault codes, as an ex member of staff, I would find myself in very hot water. My work contract clearly advisd that distributing and publishing sensitive trade secrets /information that was afforded to me is a breach of copyright, legal action will be taken in all cases. Current employee or not.
I am more than happy where possible to assist members of the trade, as I have done on a number of occasions throughout the years I have been a member of UKW. I’m just not willing to put myself in a position where I could face legal action. Sorry!April 2, 2012 at 10:41 am #371925Martin
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Beever wrote:I take offence at you suggesting that I was laughing at the people that had taken the time to build such an app.
I made no such suggestion Mr Beever. Perhaps you may wish to read the opening sentence of my earlier post again?
April 2, 2012 at 9:25 pm #371926Beever
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Martin, you seem to have a bee in your bonnet over this, if you want to take my post personally, then thatโs up to you! :rolls:
I have and will always, where possible assist members of the trade if asked.
April 2, 2012 at 10:28 pm #371927kwatt
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Can we draw a line please?
Poorly worded perhaps, let’s leave it there.
K.
April 3, 2012 at 3:37 pm #371928PGS
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I say bring on the APPS any shared knowledge is a bonus.
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