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Hi all,
Firstly, this is a brilliant website for info, advice and the like. Have already decided to buy ISE when the washing machine needs replaced, if I can source a supplier in N.Ireland.
Secondly, I would value and appreciate any opinions on the Fisher & Paykel range style oven (model OR90LDBGX1) and F&P Fridge Freezers (models E522BRX or E442BRX) taking reliability, quality and service costs etc. into consideration.
If you can recommend better alternatives for the same kind of money (circa 1800 quid) for both oven and f/f I would be eternally grateful as this is the first time in 15 years we have had to replace any white goods and any advice we have received so far has been so conflicting it has totally confused us.
By the way, my dear wife likes the look of F&P in stainless steel for our new kitchen :rolls:
Many thanks in advance
G
Cooker wise I would put to and go for a Rangemaster, I havent seen anything under a grand range wise that I would buy myself as a cooker specialist.
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Hi WSTS…..thanks for your reply.
Unfortunately Rangemaster (Toledo 90) is way over our budget of 1800 pounds which we had to increase after realising that the 1200 we had allowed for was only going to buy trouble !!!
We know that quality does’nt come cheap that’s why we increased our budget to the absolute max. Simply cannot afford any more as the new kitchen will more or less clean us out.My wife has really fallen for the F&P range of goods and would really appreciate your opinion on the F&P OR90 range cooker.
To refridgeration specialists, opinions on the F&P E522BRX and E442BRX
would also be appreciated. I know that Liebherr is widely considered the best in europe but once again is outside of our budget. The max width we can accomodate is 790mm / no height restriction as it will be free standing.F&P fit our requirements exactly. Size – functionality – looks and price.
Quality – reliability – service/parts costs are still under question marks as we dont trust what the sales people tell us. Thats why we were hoping that this site could give us some clear honest opinions based on first hand experiences.
Sorry, beginning to waffle.
The f/f is the most important – we would use the hob more often than the oven being a working family of three.
Thanks once again
Graeme
Re: Fisher & Paykel versus the rest.
Hi Graeme,
I am a direct service and sales agent for F&P and I cannot give them enough praise, not just because of that but they are a genuinely good company to deal with from both mine and my customers point of view.
Their service department is going through major changes at the moment, I have just come back from new training at their head office, in fact one of their top service technicians was over in N.Ireland last week training an agent and sorting out a couple of jobs over there, their dedication to quality service in the UK and Eire is very genuine.
Spare parts are very reasonably priced, considering the technical nature of the refrigeration and dishwashing products, I really do like the refrigeration products.
The range cooker is made in Italy and is very good value for money, opinions will differ on this site but I like their produsts from both a service and sales point of view.
It’s a shame you live in N.Ireland otherwise I would have definately supplied you with F&P products, let me know by PM if you need any more info. 😀
Re: Fisher & Paykel versus the rest.
f&p for the refrigeration.
ANY rangemaster for the range if you can stretch your budget. they also have the “name” if you are that way orientated. the only thing i dont like with them are the “solid” doors which feel particularly tinny conpared to their models that have glass windows.
cant say ive worked or supplied a f&P range, but personally id have a new world nw90dfdo if on a tight budget. or if you want a more solid machine for similar price, an end of line cannon, or eg902x from hotpoint whcih are pretty chunky.
im not gonna slate f&p because their nz spec gear is pretty decent but a lot of it wont fit the uk market so i understand whirpool, who have the rights to distributing the brand in the uk, will often source appliances from contract plants to produce a uk spec model under the f&p brand. also getting an element for a f&p range is expensive and hard work – what worries me is the model your wife liked, you mentioned was italian and im sure some of the ranges are produced by nardi, which from my experience of the few ive been out to, werent the greatest inthe world – and iirc u should get same spec and quality with a delonghi or baumatic but with a much lower price tag… not that id buy either of those myself!!
as jonah is a authorised agent im sure he can clarify or correct any points ive made should any be incorrect-i can only go on by what ive been told by my distrbutors lol – but what i do know is that you should go and look at one in the flesh before you buy. and if you then like it, then you should get it from the retailer you viewed it from (assuming in stock) because as a retailer myself, i know they will look after you till the cows come home 🙂
Re: Fisher & Paykel versus the rest.
I can clarify a few points for you gandh1
All current F&P dishwashers and ovens fit into normal UK spec kitchens
Fisher & Paykel distribute their own appliances in the UK, there is no tie up with Whirlpool.
Their range cookers are made in the Delonghi plant in Italy as F&P own the Delonghi brand
A genuine fan oven element for the OR90 range retails at £17.48.
JohnRe: Fisher & Paykel versus the rest.
I cook so I just put in (nearly) a Mercury cooker and I have to say I’m duly impressed, I’ve been after one for the best part of six years. If you’re going to run to an £1800 range cooker I’d seriously suggest you have a look at it as you will obviously be looking to cook.
I’ll be writing my thoughts on it more after I have a chance to actually use it in anger as it were but the initial impression is that it is quite some bit of kit. Extremely well thought out and I’d kinda expect that as it came from the Lincat stable, professional catering equipment people.
Glass doors, massively overrated IMO gandh. They break, leak, get dirty and blow up on occasion. No proper oven has a glass door bar extremely expensive high speed catering ovens. It is my opinion that they are not required and I’ve yet to see one that will stand the test of time in that, a few years down the road, you still don’t have to open the door to see what’s going on in the oven anyway.
They also add weight and make side opening a non-starter or the hinges break if you look at them the wrong way.
New World is just a Stoves/Belling or whatever, they’re okay for the money but there’s better out there and wsts is quite correct in saying that Rangemaster is better, albeit more money. Cannon, Hotpoint and any of the rest of the Indesit machines I’d steer well clear of. Not very good really.
F&P cookers, from what I’ve seen of them, do appear to be pretty decent but I’ve not tested or had a chance to cook on one or take one apart so I can’t say too much about them, they do appear to be pretty chunky affairs though. The only worry I have is that they bought Elba/De Longhi and they weren’t brilliant IMO, but okay at the money. They’ve nothing to do with (to my knowledge) Nardi or Baumatic although it wouldn’t surprise me if the Elba factory was pumping out cookers under those brand names.
Cheaper than shipping them from NZ though. 😉
Sorry gandh, don’t mean to cause any offence, I just call it as I see it.
K.
Re: Fisher & Paykel versus the rest.
Can’t comment on the ovens but if my experience of the dishwashers is anything to go by I’d avoid F&P like the plague, both from a build quality and service support aspect.
Pretty much every experience we’ve had with our dishdrawer is echoed by the followup comments to KWatt’s review here:
http://www.ukwhitegoods.co.uk/modules.p … tent&id=40Re: Fisher & Paykel versus the rest.
We bought one of their ovens just over two years ago because of it having two double ovens. Worst mistake we made it does not cook particularly well and is so hard to keep clean. Whow betide any one who does not clean it thoroughly after every use it fills the kitchen with smoke when ever you open the door. Final straw was the exploding glass door over Christmas. Just warming the oven when it went off like an explosion. I can honestly say we have never had an appliance which is so useless at what it is designed for. Customer service, well more like dis-service were not what exactly what you might call helpful. “It’s you problem go and sort it with our local agent and we are not paying anything”.
Having paid a lot of money over what may be considered a normal oven, expecting to have it for a long time, we rather naively thought we would get something better. C’est la vie, but from our experience avoid at all costs.
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