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How about this half wits work? and to think you need to gain qualifications to enable you to do this, and yes it was a Gas Safe Engineer that did it.
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Possibly dictated by the customer on grounds of cost? I imagine routing the pipework to the rear of the dishwasher would have increased the gas fitting charge quite a lot, although more cost effective in the long run.
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Ah Cost, that’ll be it then, the upshot is that needless to say the appliance could not be repaired as it requires removal and now the gas engineer has been booked to come and remove the pipe so as to allow the removal of the appliance for which he is charging for!
I am having some trouble following the cost aspect. I have advised the customer that if the gas engineer is going to remove the pipe and then the dishwasher is repaired with him returning to put that pipe back where it is . That they get someone else to repair the dishwasher as in the event the dishwasher were to exhibit any future problems you just know the customer is gonna want the person who made the repairs to the dishwasher to foot the bill of the gas pipe issues.Thankfully we won’t be going back to this one I don’t need the bother of someone else’s problems.
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kwatt wrote:It’s legal.
Are you sure about that? That compromising and preventing the safe access to other electrical domestic appliances is legal?
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If it’s safe, it’s legal.
Doesn’t matter if it prevents you removing other stuff, even if it does seem like abject stupidity to us.
K.
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How about this. Not so easy access & nowhere near the manufacturer instructions.
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GasSafe wrote:
Dear MartinThank you for your correspondence.
In this instance I would refer you to BS6891 which states:
8: Installation
8.1 Installation pipework shall be physically protected or located where it is not liable to mechanical damage
If the customer has concerns relating to the gas safety of the installation then he/she can raise a complaint via 08004085500 Option 6 or enquiries@gassaferegister.co.uk .
John Stirling SIIRSM RSP EngTech MIGEM
Technical Support Officer
Gas Safe Register200 Cedarwood, Chineham Park, Crockford Lane, Basingstoke, Hampshire RG24 8WD
Tel: 0800 408 5500I would suggest in this instance that the pipework could indeed render itself “liable to mechanical damage” and Squadmans customer should report the guy using the complaints procedure shown in the email above. 🙁
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Not only is the location wrong not to current standards, flexible gas pipe should hang downwards in a natural loop.
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Martin wrote:I would suggest in this instance that the pipework could indeed render itself “liable to mechanical damage”
Only if you move something and disturb the pipework.
If you don’t, no problem.
I do agree, it’s as daft as daft can be and prevents or hinders access but that doesn’t make it illegal (at least technically), just daft.
But then, you don’t know what the customer asked for as I’d think that was an after the fact addition to the kitchen and it is all too possible or, even likely, that the customer opted not to have the expense of unit removal etc to do the job correctly. It’s pretty evident that that pipe was put there after the kitchen was in. So to save cash and a heap of hassle, you get this.
Would I be surprised if that proved to be the case? And, would I be surprised if they didn’t own up to that?
BTW, the answer to both is a resounding, not bl00dy likely.
K.
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Sparrowhawk wrote:Not only is the location wrong not to current standards, flexible gas pipe should hang downwards in a natural loop.
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The photo does not show it on the ground 😳My photo shows a pipe bent in a way that will cause it to break by simply being in that position without any external interference.
It’s the usual problem with gas safe, one persons interpretation of the regs against another’s, but Ken is right the pipe is not under any threat by being there, the regs are clear, if the pipe was being placed at risk without any interference it would be an issue. Same as gas pipes in the ground, perfectly safe until an idiot sticks a jcb through it.
Gas safe does not work by what if’s. The regs work on facts.
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