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Re: Haier products
This is actually very unfair – Haier is perfectly capable of manufacturing to any standard required. Unfortunately…… the own brand stuff is always built on the premise of “cheap”. You want to pay cheap, you get cheap – look at the dishwashers. Point is, none of them say “Haier” on the front.
However, when you start to market in your own right, you’ve got to start somewhere, so you buy your way in at the bottom. You may recall the early Beko washers – WM1060/80/10 – cheap and cheerful, bit shoddy really. The exploding motor module was only £15, so we didn’t complain too much – it was fixable on a budget.
Now, where did we hear that before? ISE perhaps? Keep it maintainable – Beko made the CI555WH, remember. Bespoke manufacture to a standard.
Anyway, Haier are boxed into a corner with regards to outlets. One customer recently asked me to look at his Hotpoint WMA with a blown module and rumbly bearings and said “No”. Went to the next call, realised I had left my meter behind and went back an hour later to collect it. He’d been to the Co-op of all places and bought a high spin, silver Haier, which at a glance looked like a Bosch, for £210. He started it whilst I was there. The ensuing “Bang” was rather impressive….
Made to a price point, made for a one-off cheap profit by retailers who don’t care – at the moment, they haven’t a prayer of establishing a reputation if they can’t find a quality retailer.
Great shame, IMO.
Chris.
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Unfair is justified; yes they can make quality products, but that goes for most manufacturers ie- Indesit.
They have the tools and R&D to birth something worthy of selling but don’t 👿
As for the silver Haier, it most probably a Wuxi Swan baby 😀 they do look almost Siemen like 😯Greg
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I suppose it depends on whether or not you’re trying to take over the world or not……
You can:
1/ Make cheap smart cr@p in huge volume to run your factories 24 hours a day until your customer base figures out just which and how many brands you’re punting out. Now how many are doing that?2/ Make a product of incredible quality at a high price with a volume which doesn’t quite meet your demand in order to maintain the mystique. Then you screw your customers on service anyway – well, they can afford it, can’t they? Even if you don’t make your own fridges….
3/ Try and sell a decent product to an educated market who accept that perfection is unobtainable – but cost effective service is a realistic and achievable goal.
I know where I want to be.
Chris.
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I have to agree with you on that one Chris 🙂
I do think the major retailers have got too much of a stranglehold on the market, they seem to have the manufacturers by the b@lls on it all.
I was ‘told’ that a certain retailer is purchasing Haier washers at £28 a piece, Surely this cannot be correct???? 😯
SteveRe: Haier products
Hi Steve
Yep that would be about the right price they are paying,I can get gas & electric cookers landed into the Uk for about £80 and I havent got the buying power they have.
Bryan
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Those cr4ppy dishwashers are supposed to cost under £50 a pop yet they sell for £200 or more, mind you I guess they have to pay for fixing them all! 😆
I wouldn’t think that they were as cheap as £28 but I wouldn’t be terribly surprised if they were that and, again, you have to pay to fix the things.
But you just have to ask what is expected for that sort of money.
K.
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The retailer I reffer to begining with ‘C’ apparently has no warranty and/or service with the manufacturer and they have to use their own repair service to put them right but the machines get BER’d for the tiniest of things like faulty brush holders, perhaps the machines are cheaper to purchase than a new set of brushes 😕
The boards are potted (sunk in resin) so no hope of repairing them….
SteveThat’ll be Comet.
They have an exclusive on them and, as someone in Currys said, they’re welcome to it. 😆
K.
kwatt wrote:That’ll be Comet.
They have an exclusive on them and, as someone in Currys said, they’re welcome to it. 😆
K.
Yes, But i didnt like to name and shame!!! 😆
SteveRe: Haier products
I know a comet engineer who has to cover most of north Scotland & let me tell you he’s a very stressed fellow. On the verge of leaving in fact.
Having to deal with Haier products is apparently a huge part of it for him, one machine actually caused a house fire & £40,000 worth of damage.. it was under 1 month old 😯
But yes, the Chinese CAN build a quality product if thats what they’re asked to do.. i’m writing this on an HP laptop, nearly 5 yrs old, been totally reliable, never missed a beat.. made in China (ironically, bought in Comet, if memory serves 😳 😳 )
helo_75 wrote:ahem (works for comet)
ask the questions, youll get the answers
Put a blue sticker on it, that’ll sort it out :rotfl:
nationalhomecare wrote:
helo_75 wrote:
ahem (works for comet)ask the questions, youll get the answers
Put a blue sticker on it, that’ll sort it out :rotfl:
as usual, a balanced and open conversation involving all sectors 😯
when are you gonna get it? i ve said it before and ill say it again… i know what you think of comet engineers, and thats fine
of course im sure theres nothing you struggle with at all, and you write nothing off?
honestly, i do wonder why i bother
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