Help required with a hotpoint Electronic 800 De luxe 9526

[iadom]

Re: Help required with a hotpoint Electronic 800 De luxe 952

That heating element will be unsafe to refit BTW. Agree with Martin, the front bearing doesn’t look to badly damaged and should drift out quite easily without collapsing. How well the seal will last with the alloy bearing housing in that state on the inside is anyones guess.

[neptune]

Re: Help required with a hotpoint Electronic 800 De luxe 952

You are right about photos . At a quick glance it is easy to think you are looking at a photo of the rear bearing . What I cant figure , is if the front bearing is stuck fast , how come he has a photo of it removed? . I stand by my potato and hot water method . If the bearing is really stuck , trying to remove it cold usually results in the inner end of the bearing tube breaking away . by using boiling water , the temperature is limited to 100c . Using a blowtorch can easily melt the plastic of the drum . As you say we all have our methods . It works for me . At least I was there with some useful advice …

[iadom]

Re: Help required with a hotpoint Electronic 800 De luxe 952

One picture is of the alloy casing with the rear bearing removed, no pictures of main bearing removed.

[dnaxton]

Re: Help required with a hotpoint Electronic 800 De luxe 952

Martin wrote:neptune,

What are you on about? The photographs provided by dnaxton show perfectly the front bearing (in place & removed). Stuff a potato and boiling water indeed? The guy has removed the bearing with far less stuff and nonsense. A soaking in WD40 and a cold chisel is all that’s required in this instant.

We all adopt our own techniques in these circumstances and if it works for you then great and your comments nevertheless are much appreciated :tup:

I have soaked the front bearing with WD, i will give it a try with a chisel in the morning.

All i need now is a drum pulley.

Dave

[dnaxton]

Re: Help required with a hotpoint Electronic 800 De luxe 952

iadom wrote:One picture is of the alloy casing with the rear bearing removed, no pictures of main bearing removed.

I haven’t managed to get the front one out yet……………:wink:

[dnaxton]

Re: Help required with a hotpoint Electronic 800 De luxe 952

iadom wrote:That heating element will be unsafe to refit BTW. Agree with Martin, the front bearing doesn’t look to badly damaged and should drift out quite easily without collapsing. How well the seal will last with the alloy bearing housing in that state on the inside is anyones guess.

I have basically replaced the following so far

The motor failed so i bought a new one. Whilst i was doing it i treated myself to a new door seal and the door surround and replaced a cracked timer knob.

Then a week later the spider fell to bits. So i have basically spent more than i should have done on the old unit but i must see it through to the end.

So i have now bought

new Belt
New spider
new bearing / seal set.

Now it looks like i have to buy a new heating element and now after reading your post it looks like i now have a knackered alloy bearing housing

Dave 🙁 😥

[iadom]

Re: Advice/help required

dnaxton wrote:Just call me mister lucky from now on 🙁

The reason why the drum pulley was a nightmare to get off, was the fact that it was cross threaded.

I just have to add that as this would appear to be the first time that this pulley has been removed from the shaft, it is the first time I have ever heard of a pulley being ‘cross threaded’ from new, and in well over 30 years working on these machines I must have removed many hundreds of them. The loctite applied can sometimes make them difficult to remove.

Edit..Without in any way wanting to appear rude, I never cease to be amazed at the lengths people go to without specialist knowledge, I have rarely fitted a complete motor to this type of machine for many years, new brushes or a replacement armature usually suffice.

I like to have a go at most things but I pride myself on knowing when to stop, when you are in a hole, stop digging.

The horror stories most of my esteemed colleagues and I could tell you about DIY repairs would make you step back and think twice, I have no idea of your chosen job/profession, but I wonder what your response would be to someone with no experience/qualifications attempting to do your job. 🙂

[leavemetogetonwithit]

Re: Help required with a hotpoint Electronic 800 De luxe 952

You can probably get away with that bearing housing as long as it accepts and holds the new bearing seal firmly. Coat it with a waterproof adhesive before reinstalling the drum to prevent further corrosion.
If you’ve got time to look around try your local civic amenity site (dump)
for a similar machine (there were many millions made and the dump is a likely place if your local reconditioner doesn’t get there first). You could get a heater or at least a pulley. (You’d need to check that the heater has a built in thermal fuse, same as yours). Also try your nearest small shop domestic appliance trader for a s/h pulley. (Though I’d be surprised too that it was possible to cross thread it and still get it all the way on square enough to work).
By the way, I noticed an error in all the advice so far given here.
No one has exhorted POWER OFF! 😯 ❗
Mike. 😆

[Penguin45]

Re: Help required with a hotpoint Electronic 800 De luxe 952

leavemetogetonwithit wrote:
By the way, I noticed an error in all the advice so far given here.
No one has exhorted POWER OFF! 😯 ❗

Good spot LMTGOWI – all trade posters are reminded that “Safety First” is the crucial message to all posts on the site.

Regards,
Penguin45.

[dnaxton]

Re: Help required with a hotpoint Electronic 800 De luxe 952

leavemetogetonwithit wrote:You can probably get away with that bearing housing as long as it accepts and holds the new bearing seal firmly. Coat it with a waterproof adhesive before reinstalling the drum to prevent further corrosion.
If you’ve got time to look around try your local civic amenity site (dump)
for a similar machine (there were many millions made and the dump is a likely place if your local reconditioner doesn’t get there first). You could get a heater or at least a pulley. (You’d need to check that the heater has a built in thermal fuse, same as yours). Also try your nearest small shop domestic appliance trader for a s/h pulley. (Though I’d be surprised too that it was possible to cross thread it and still get it all the way on square enough to work).
By the way, I noticed an error in all the advice so far given here.
No one has exhorted POWER OFF! 😯 ❗
Mike. 😆

The applance is switched off 😉

I finally managed to get the front bearing out. The WD40 done its job.

[dnaxton]

Re: Advice/help required

iadom wrote:

dnaxton wrote:
Just call me mister lucky from now on 🙁

The reason why the drum pulley was a nightmare to get off, was the fact that it was cross threaded.

I just have to add that as this would appear to be the first time that this pulley has been removed from the shaft, it is the first time I have ever heard of a pulley being ‘cross threaded’ from new, and in well over 30 years working on these machines I must have removed many hundreds of them. The loctite applied can sometimes make them difficult to remove.

Edit..Without in any way wanting to appear rude, I never cease to be amazed at the lengths people go to without specialist knowledge, I have rarely fitted a complete motor to this type of machine for many years, new brushes or a replacement armature usually suffice.

I like to have a go at most things but I pride myself on knowing when to stop, when you are in a hole, stop digging.

The horror stories most of my esteemed colleagues and I could tell you about DIY repairs would make you step back and think twice, I have no idea of your chosen job/profession, but I wonder what your response would be to someone with no experience/qualifications attempting to do your job. 🙂

I am not a keen DIYer and i am not repairing this for fun.

I am afraid i currently dont have the resources to either buy a new machine or hire a professional to repair it.

But i do understanding what your saying and totally agree.

Dave

P.s I am no professional but i am sure that neither new brushes or a replacement armature would have got this motor working again.

[iadom]

Re: Help required with a hotpoint Electronic 800 De luxe 952

Whilst I understand your financial reasons, had you called in a reputable local independant you may not have expended all the money you have thus far. well over 95{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} of these motors will repair with an armature and brushes, in fact the only GDA type motors that I have replaced in the past ten years have been when the customer has attempted a repair themselves and damaged the motor field coil, difficult to comment on yours without seeing the field coil. As regards the bearing change you have overcome the most difficult stage, the only thing to be careful of now is damaging the new bearings when fitting them into the drum.

If and when you do get this machine repaired or whenever you get a new one, make sure that you use a good quality detergent and do a regular 60° wash every week and a maintenance wash every couple of months using a small dose of detergent and the hottest wash 95° without clothes in. That will prevent the type of damage that your drum support has suffered.

NB. I don’t think myself or anyone has mentioned that you should also replace the black rubber drum seal, it will almost certainly leak if you do not, it is not an expensive part.

[dnaxton]

Re: Help required with a hotpoint Electronic 800 De luxe 952

I just thought that i would let you know that the rebuild went well and that the machine has been in full use for the past week without any problems.

Cheers all for your help.

Happy Christmas
Dave

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