Hoover Fridge/Freezer – Fridge to cold

[DaveyWRX]

Hi Guys,

Sorry to worry you, I’m after some assistance in repairing a Hoover HNMF 2605A-80.
It’s only about 2.5 years old and the fridge section is too cold, it has started to freeze the veg and the milk.

I would normally get a new one but I’d due to be a dad in 4 weeks time (Yay!) and be made redundant in about 8 weeks time 🙁 I could do with not having to spend out on another fridge freezer, especially at this time.

I used to be an electronic engineer but have now moved into computing so I thought I’d take a look.

Firstly I checked that the fridge drain tube wasn’t blocked and gave the drip tray a clean off at the back, I also gave it a fair amount of time to de-frost and removed some of the insulation at the back of the freezer unit to see if the fan was ok, it looked fine.

Next I checked the temp control PCB at the top of the unit, I found the fridge thermistor and this appeared to be changing proportionally with temp so discounted it (4K Cold – 10K hot).

I then went for the PCB itself and ordered a new one, £38 later it was still the same.

I then put a multi-turn 10K preset in series with the thermistor and gently over a few days wound up the resistance, this fixed it for about 3 months but now it’s doing it again.

So, I’m pretty sure it’s the temp sensor, and can see that they’re about £7 but my question is that I’m guessing I need to cut a hole in the back to change it, is there somewhere specific that the sensor can be found?

Many thanks in advance,
D.

[DaveyWRX]

Re: Hoover Fridge/Freezer – Fridge to cold

Hi BG,

Thanks for your assistance, that’s a good idea.
I found the pack that came with the fridge and it contains an ‘N1B’ instruction manual, it contains useful hints such as if the fridge is making a noise then move it away from the skirting…. Hmmm.

Unfortunately it doesn’t appear to contain the info regarding the position of the temperature sensor.

I know it’s a long shot but would anyone else be able to let me know the position of the temp sensor on a Hoover HNMF 2605A-80?

Best regards,
D.

[admin]

Re: Hoover Fridge/Freezer – Fridge to cold

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[DaveyWRX]

Re: Hoover Fridge/Freezer – Fridge to cold

Ah, Perfect!! Thank you very much indeed.

I’ll get the temp sensor ordered now and give it a go.

I owe you a drink 🙂

Cheers,
D.

[admin]

Re: Hoover Fridge/Freezer – Fridge to cold

HARP & A BAG OF NUTS, THANKS

[Penguin45]

Re: Hoover Fridge/Freezer – Fridge to cold

You going to sign up for the Trade Forums, TWM?

BTW, you’ve just posted GIAS Tech info verbatim into a public forum – we’re not allowed to do that, so I have deleted the info.

Penguin45,
Moderator.

[Hansel]

Re: Hoover Fridge/Freezer – Fridge to cold

Hi All

I too have the same problem and need to know to location of the temperature sensor on this model

Is there any way anyone can give me this info without breaching the manufacturers copyright?

Any help appreciated

Regards

[cockney steve]

Re: Hoover Fridge/Freezer – Fridge to cold

When you buy this kit from GIAS (hoover) you get fitting instructions including dimensions as to where to remove insulation

from the first reply on this thread 😉

I would hazard a guess that the old one is just disconnected and left in situ.

that is only a guess as i’m not a whitegoods engineer.

[Hansel]

Re: Hoover Fridge/Freezer – Fridge to cold

I have received the new sensor in the post today (ordered from E-spares) but it has not come with any fitting instructions as described above.

[kwatt]

Go back to Espares and ask for technical support then. 😉

K.

[Hansel]

Re: Hoover Fridge/Freezer – Fridge to cold

E-spares and Gias (from whom the sensor was dispatched) have both refused to help.

I asked the forum because this info had already been made available (above)

I’m not after verbatum copywrited technical info. Just a guide to where to cut, otherwise the appliance is binned.

Alternatively if no-one is willing to help with this is there a service manual I can buy with this info?

[kwatt]

Re: Hoover Fridge/Freezer – Fridge to cold

We can, no doubt, get the technical bulletin as it would be supplied with the new part. Had we ordered one recently we could even ask GIAS for a copy and we’d most likely get it.

But, not having ordered the sensor or PCB to get a copy would place us in a position where we’d have to effectively “lie” to get it. I’m sure you can see why we’d not want to be doing that as, if we got caught, we’d be probably rightly accused of redistributing copyrighted material.

Espares should supply the documentation if it is required to do the job however, it is worth noting, that Espares (along with a good many other spares suppliers online) are NOT technical at all. They supply parts, they do absolutely nothing else so, if you hit trouble along the way, you’re knackered in respect of getting support.

Service manuals, effectively, do not exist and are covered by the whole copyright thing. We are not allowed, even if they are available, to allow them to be redistributed without the express permission of the company that produced them or we’re liable to prosecution. I’m sorry, but we just won’t place ourselves in a position where we get prosecuted. Hence the removal of the pasted information previously.

This is also the reason that you don’t see user manuals available for download on here and, that’s the only reason. If we get permission to reprint or digitally distribute material, not a problem. If we don’t, we can’t do it.

If there’s enough call, we’ll re-write some stuff but that is very time consuming and therefore expensive to do.

K.

[Hansel]

Re: Hoover Fridge/Freezer – Fridge to cold

Hi

I appreciate where you are coming and will not therfore pursue this question further. Thank you for taking the time to reply even if you are unable to help

The frustating thing (for me) is that although ordered from E-spares the sensor was dispatched direct from GIAS, and even has their details on the delivery note. It appears to be a genuine Hoover part in the original unopened packaging but has not come with the supporting info referred to here.

It sounds from what others have said here that it should have done.

“We can, no doubt, get the technical bulletin as it would be supplied with the new part”

I asked GIAS first as it did not seem unreasonable for them to supply supporting info if the item came from them albeit through a third party.

My question about a service manual was not a request to download copyright information from this forum. If you read my post I said ‘is there a service manual I can buy’

Thank you again

[kwatt]

Re: Hoover Fridge/Freezer – Fridge to cold

Hi Hansel,

Appliance service manuals are mentioned HERE and as we keep getting asked for them, again HERE in an article all to themselves.

Basically if they even exist we are not allowed to redistribute them for fear of being sued for copyright infringement as they are not “public” documents. Full stop, end of story.

If I get permission, in writing, from GIAS or any other manufacturer I’ll happily make all of it freely available. In the meantime, while we don’t have permission to distribute or republish these documents, we do not have time to rewrite them, if they even exist.

I would agree that it is insanity on the face of it but, you have to appreciate that we as repairers often cannot get this sort of documentation as it is restricted to the OEM service in whatever form it takes.

While the same brand, in America or other regions, freely publishes such material online.

Go figure. Baffles us.

K.

[helo_75]

ok

its always a difficult one this one

common sense must apply

you can see the plug for the thermistor, right

identify it on the pcb and follow the wires back?

im not sure that was difficult to figure? ull have plenty of spare foam and little to lose

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