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January 19, 2007 at 8:56 pm #24293
StevieV99
ParticipantHi all
I have searched the forum and find some threads similar but not quite the same, so here goes.
Got a Hoover SE220 about 5 yrs old and just before Christmas started banging on spin. Lot of play on drum so decided it was either spider or bearings so stripped it down and spider was shot so replaced that and bearings whilst machine in bits.
Anyhoo, Put it all back together and start using it again and washer trips out house RCD. Switch all back on and try again and this time watch it and after flash from motor, trips RCD again. Check brushes etc, seem OK and Armature seems OK, then it works for a while with no problems.
Couple of weeks later, same thing happens, except motor now clicking. Take motor off again, raised copper segment on armature, so look on here – motor shot, order a reconditioned one.
This arrives, all very clean with brushes all looks fine etc. Put it on and start a wash – trips RCD. This time I turn everything back on and watch it – I can see very small amounts (tiny sparks, miniscule) of arcing from brushes, is this normal?
It then works OK for a while i.e. finishes washes but after leaving it for a day, happens again – big flash from motor, RCD trips. Take off recon motor, armature fine, brushes seem fine although not completely touching armature – the central part is but not the top edge – don these need to bed in and ‘shape’ themselves to armature if new??
Any ideas or advice would be appreciated, thankyou
Steve
January 19, 2007 at 9:34 pm #201477Turbo
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Brushes will give off very tiny sparks while working. Have you carried out an insulation test on this motor?. What are the readings?
Is water dripping onto the motor?
Carry out an insulation test on the heating element.
If the tripping happens on wash I cant see as this would be the fault of poorly bedded in brushes. Good luck.
Unplug from electricity supply before working on appliance.
TurboJanuary 19, 2007 at 11:49 pm #201478Trilobite
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I wonder if the original motor has fried the controller board as well…?
POWER OFF & PLUG OUT before diving in! 🙂
January 20, 2007 at 7:48 am #201479StevieV99
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Thankyou for your prompt responses.
I dont have the equipment to do an IR test, Im not an engineer or anything, just prepared to get my hands dirty and give things a go.
It seems to be an intermittent fault. When I use the washer after not using it for a day or so, it may do this, but then it works fine.
Could a control unit cause this, bearing in mind the machine works perfectly and goes through all its programs and cycles as it should provided I dont get the big RCD tripping spark off it.
Could the recon motor be faulty (I guess this could only be verified with an IR test). The motor did come with a 12 mth wty.
Could it be it has new brushes and they have to ‘shape’ or bed in like car brakes etc completely to the armature as at present they dont entirely like the ones on the old motor did.
Im a bit at a loss with this one, as there doesnt seem to be any reason for this and now having spent about £100 on it of late, Id rather not throw in the towel and buy a new machine (well not for a few months at least)
Thanks
Steve
January 20, 2007 at 10:30 am #201480Turbo
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Had the original motor damaged the board in my experience you would not be getting any motor action.
Power off when working on machine.
TurboJanuary 20, 2007 at 1:05 pm #201481StevieV99
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Thanks for your responses
Steve
January 20, 2007 at 1:07 pm #201482StevieV99
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Sorry, looking through post again, forgot to include fact that the tripping occurs only when on fast spin, if this makes any more sense.
Steve
January 20, 2007 at 7:42 pm #201483Turbo
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Sounds like the motor could be the problem. If the brushes in the old motor are good put them in the recon motor as you can be sure they are bedded in ok. There is a chance that you could damage the electronics if you keep trying to run a faulty motor and of course there is a safety issue here if the motor fails a insulation test.
Unplug when working on machine.
TurboJanuary 21, 2007 at 10:02 am #201484StevieV99
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Thanks mate
Steve
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