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October 26, 2011 at 2:37 pm #65890
inisfad
ParticipantWell, I have this rather elderly washing machine as my ‘daily driver’. Some weeks ago, the timer began to stop at each rinse cycle. I would manually advance it, and the machine would continue through the cycle to the end. Regrettably, at some point, while advancing the dial, a portion of the plastic ‘female’ part of it broke, (and fell in behind the panel) so that the dial would not stay on the machine (and, of course I lost any indication as to what cycle the machine was at, at any given time). Rather unprofessionally, I have muddled through this, still using the machine, still advancing the spindle manually, while looking for advice on the internet, finally finding this website. So, my questions:
1. Is the timer completely shot if it only stops at the rinse cycles. If so, is this something I can replace myself? Where is this part available?
2. The timer is presumably located at the front of the machine. Does anyone have instructions as to how to get to this area (panels need to be removed??)
3. How does the dial actually fit on to the spindle? (I have found sites where the dial can be replaced, but presumably this does not slide on. A circlip or something? Any place where I can find instructions?
4. How on earth to you figure out what cycle the machine is on?
Hopefully someone here can help me. I understand the machine is old, but it works great, and I wouldn’t want to replace it for something that is reparable.
Thanks!October 26, 2011 at 2:48 pm #362273iadom
ModeratorRe: Hotpoint 95360 washer – timer problem
Sticking on the rinse cycles is more often than not a faulty water inlet valve or dodgy plumbing.
If the plumbing has not been altered then it could be the cold water inlet valve that has failed.
Can you actually get it to fill with cold water at any point during the rinse cycles?
If it stops during the rinse cycle for 5 or 10 minutes and you can hear water running into the machine then your waste plumbing is at fault.
Fitting the new knob is easy and as soon as you see the new one you will understand how it is attached to the ‘D’ shaped timer shaft. You have to remove the lid, there is a small hole above the timer shaft to get a screwdriver in to tighten up the securing screw. Be sure to remove the mains plug first.
If you can get cold water to run in during the rinse cycles and if checking your outlet it is not draining away then it does suggest a rare ( but more likely at this age ) failure of the internal timer cams and switches.
Complete timer is still listed as available but is over £70.00 and includes a few wiring modifications. EMW electronics do refurbished timers.
October 26, 2011 at 2:54 pm #362274Martin
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inisfad wrote:1. Is the timer completely shot if it only stops at the rinse cycles.
More likely not a timer fault and possibly a water inlet valve fault (for example)
inisfad wrote:2. The timer is presumably located at the front of the machine. Does anyone have instructions as to how to get to this area (panels need to be removed??)
Yes, remove the control/fascia panel.
inisfad wrote:3. How does the dial actually fit on to the spindle?
There’s an access slot directly above the knob (with the lid removed first)
inisfad wrote:4. How on earth to you figure out what cycle the machine is on?
By fitting a new Control knob assembly
October 26, 2011 at 2:56 pm #362275iadom
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And there you have just had the benefit of over 80 years experience. 8)
October 26, 2011 at 3:02 pm #362276Martin
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Ditto…. :rotl:
October 26, 2011 at 3:24 pm #362277iadom
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Martin wrote:Ditto…. :rotl:
Yep, my 25 years added to yours. 😛
October 26, 2011 at 3:29 pm #362278inisfad
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Wow, how cool is that – but you will have to excuse my stupidity. It is not when the water is coming in to the machine that is the problem. It is when the water is going out. In other words, water comes in fine, everything soaped up, spraying good, etc, the tub revolves this way and that way, and then it is time for the water to drain out, and the timer stops. I move the timer one click, and the water drains out fine, tub spins, stops, new water comes in, washes well, tub revolves, then it is time for that water to drain out, and the timer stops. I move one click on the dial, and the water drains out well, etc.
Sorry for being pedantic above, and not explaining well in my first post. REALLY helpful. I actually found one site when I was researching, where guys collect these older machines, this that said the Hotpoint 95360 is ‘uber rare’!! Now that I feel I have a valuable antique, I want to repair it all the more… :eeek:
Thanks again!!
PS. You will have to excuse me (American living over here and used to top loader with a lint filter right where I can see it), but I also have never been able to find the lint filter in this machine. The machine physically does drain well (after I move the timer myself), but I am also interested in whether this might be part of the problem. Thanks again….October 26, 2011 at 3:32 pm #362279inisfad
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And I just wanted to add that I really appreciate all of the above information. I have been searching on the internet for a long time (months, actually) to get this good information.
October 26, 2011 at 3:46 pm #362280iadom
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No user accessible filter on these, only a coin trap inside the main sump hose.
Sadly from your description it does sound as though the internal cams are giving out inside the timer unit. 😥
You can buy good, refurbished timer units from HERE doing that means you won’t have to do any wiring mods.
Identify your exact timer from the label codes on your timer.
October 26, 2011 at 4:19 pm #362281Martin
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Fabric conditioner valve Jim don’t you think? OP only guessing regarding cycle positions due to busted timer knob….. :con:
October 26, 2011 at 4:58 pm #362282inisfad
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Thank you. Really much appreciated!
Regarding fabric condition valve (and I am only assuming that I know what this is; that this is some sort of delay for adding fabric conditioner), would that happen more than once in an given cycle? My delay appears to happen more than once, however, you are right, I am only guessing regarding cycle positions, just by assuming that the final spin is longer and more robust than during the cycle, and therefore that the water intake that occurs after than robust and lengthy spin is actually the start of a new cycle/setting.
Thanks again for all info and the above links.October 26, 2011 at 7:11 pm #362283iadom
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It would still fill through the cold wash/rinse valve if the conditioner valve was faulty, and would only stick on the very last rinse, not the first drain after washing. As OP said this fault preceded the timer knob breaking I am still minded to suspect a rare timer fault. 😥
I have seen these timers stick like this but only on two or three occasions in 30 odd years. 🙂
October 27, 2011 at 2:31 pm #362284inisfad
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Thank you very much for all the advice given here. Hopefully I can continue to ask stupid questions…?? :eeek:
I am going to attempt to do this myself (background: old, wrinkled female with tons of tools and enough stupidity and lack of cash to tackle these things myself). I pulled the machine out somewhat just to ‘study’ about getting the top panel off, so I can unscrew the front fascia, which I believe is how this is supposed to be done? There are decorative strips along the top, which I removed, to find two holes on either side, where a the end of a clip coming from inside the machine appears to be holding the top on, on either side. I didn’t mess with this (yet), but was hoping that one of you patient experts could advise if this is how the top was being held on. And if so, how do you prevent this from falling into the body of the machine. Ah, screws would have been easier…..October 27, 2011 at 3:30 pm #362285iadom
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OOPS, the top is held on by two screws at the back, remove them and slide it back a fraction. The facia is held on by two screws that sit behind the timer knob and two (or four) that are visible once the soap drawer is removed.
October 27, 2011 at 4:17 pm #362286Martin
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I am somewhat apprehensive at this point as how far we can advise you to be honest. With respect, a degree of electrical and engineering knowledge is a necessity. 🙁
I wish you every success but at this stage..but…..”I’m out!”
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