Hotpoint Fimware question

[andy_from_ireland]

hi there. Just wondering the firmware/software for the Hotpoint washing machines is stored on the control panel (bottom right looking at the machine from front) or is it stored on the electronic panel board behind the front fascia or is it installed on both? – is the board at the bottom of the machine matched with the board behind the fascia?

scenario I have a Hotpoint WMF940p and a Hotpoint WMUD843p – the board at the bottom of the machine is absolutely identical to each other, the board behind the fascias are absolutely different obviously. The wiring and the plug to both fascias are Identical. Curious to see What would happen if I put a fascia from the WMUD843p onto the bottom board of the WMF940p does anyone know if they would work together? Thanks.

[madangler1]

Re: Hotpoint Fimware question

According to my end if the are both Arcadia 2 machines (latest electronics) the yes it’s the same board c00285598 but the program’s are different BUT i can not confirm this 100{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} with out commercial codes and serial numbers. They are programmed into the module (bottom board). Unless you can reprogram its a NOGO.

why you need a board ? That should still be under warranty ?

[andy_from_ireland]

Re: Hotpoint Fimware question

madangler1 wrote:According to my end if the are both Arcadia 2 machines (latest electronics) the yes it’s the same board c00285598 but the program’s are different BUT i can not confirm this 100{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} with out commercial codes and serial numbers. They are programmed into the module (bottom board). Unless you can reprogram its a NOGO.

why you need a board ? That should still be under warranty ?

Thanks for the reply. Long story but will try and make it short. I got a WMUD843p, messed around with the 3 phase motor wires, wrecked bottom board, sent board to EMW, bought a WMF940p and just wondering if I could fit bottom board from WMF940p into WMUD943p and use it with the WMUD943p fascia circuit board or WMD960p Fascia circuit board, was just wondering if all interchangeable and if the WMF940p bottom board would work OK with a fascia electronic board from a WMUD843p or WMD940p – see I said it was confusing. 😯

Might be under warranty under normal circumstances but I have voided any warranty with the WMUD843 by having it in bits and swapping over the phase wires on the motor and causing damage to the bottom board. Ultimately at the end of the day I want to get my WMUD843p up and running – prefer it to the wmf940p.

[madangler1]

Re: Hotpoint Fimware question

Unfortunately it would need to be reprogrammed otherwise it won’t work, it’s not just the display,
The programming tells the module what’s attached to it, type ad rpm of motor, spin speed and wash program’s.

[andy_from_ireland]

Re: Hotpoint Fimware question

madangler1 wrote:Unfortunately it would need to be reprogrammed otherwise it won’t work, it’s not just the display,
The programming tells the module what’s attached to it, type ad rpm of motor, spin speed and wash program’s.

Oh right thanks it was just an idea. Was just thinking of using the bottom control board from the WMF940p and getting the fascia from ebay for WMD960p (because EMW have my WMUD843 one at the moment!) and working it that way.

Both machines have the same Induction motors, on the label on the motor it say 1700rpm and the 940p goes up to 1400rpm and the wmud843p 1400rpm – but yeah the wash cycles and option buttons would be different.

[madangler1]

Re: Hotpoint Fimware question

You have me interested now, why did you start to play with the motor wiring on such a new machine and what did you do ?

[andy_from_ireland]

Re: Hotpoint Fimware question

madangler1 wrote:You have me interested now, why did you start to play with the motor wiring on such a new machine and what did you do ?

oh im pretty stupid to be honest, it was niggling me that it wasnt doing its final spin in a forward direction like all other previous Hotpoint washing machines I have ever owned. So after realising it had a 3phase induction motor I figured well thats OK all I have to do is swap 2 of the phase wires round on the connection at the motor and the motor will go into the oppsite direction giving me a clockwise spin. I thought to myself if it dont work I can just put the wires back to how it was.

My idea worked to a certain point because where normally the drum would start off a wash turning anti-clockwise it was starting off going clockwise, great I thought it worked! but when it came to spin it would not spin at all there was a click from the bottom board but no spin.

OK I thought, I will just swap the phase wires back to how they wash originally to get my spin back and just put up with the drum spinning anti-clockwise, but oh no when I put the wires back to how they was – still no spin, click from relay from bottom board but no spin still. So I sent off board to EMW. Maybe by swapping over 2 of the 3 phase wires I confused the electronics in some way.

Anyway had I known I was gonna bugger up the machine like this in no way would I have attempted it the first place. The problem with me is whenever I get something I love taking back off and having a fiddle with things and cant leave things alone.

The mrs wasnt impressed so had to go out and get a WMF940p because we needed a washing machine to get out of trouble whilst I am waiting to see if EMW can repair/replace the bottom main board for me. As yet though havent heard from them either way whether it can be repaired or not.

Had a lovely WF840p a few years back and it lasted for years until drum bearings sounded like they were starting to go in it. That spun in a forward clockwise direction for its last spin and the clothes came out pretty dry. I wondered why these new Hotpoints spin an an Anti-Clockwise direction and I asked a salesperson in Currys and she said oh yeah we learnt this in training they spin anticlockwise because it gets more water out and less tangle but I feel she was having me on or something or just saying that. Our WF840p done its last spin Clockwise and the clothes came out dry and werent tangled, it does a minute or 2 slow tumble after the spin in any case. No i think its when hotpoint went to indesit all the Indesits spun anticlockwise and thats why the Hotpoints now spin that direction, I might be wrong though. Anyway – expensive mistake now just because I wanted to make the drum spin clockwise on its final spin!! 🙁

[den]

Re: Hotpoint Fimware question

Had to check the date on that last post.
Thought it may have been from 1st April 😕

The actual reason it spins ‘the wrong way’ is because the earth spins the opposite way, meaning that, effectively, the rotation of the planet, combined with the opposite rotation of the drum, means that gravitationally, the clothes within are pushing against the surface of the drum with more pressure, relieving them of more of their moisture.
Thought everyone knew that.

The problem is … if everyone in China had their washing machines on spin at the same time (its possible, because, having Fenshui, all Chinese machines are lined up the same way,with their drum shafts facing North, so that the essence of evil dirt falls out of the South facing door portal), the combined force would work like a brake, and the world would stop spinning.
Therefore .. all hotpoint machines sold in China spin in the opposite direction to those sold in Europe, to balance the forces, and keep the planet revolving at roughly the right speed.
If you order a Chinese module, this would make your machine spin in the direction you desire.
Remember to pull out the plug before fitting the Chinese module or you may leceive a fatar eretric shock.

[andy_from_ireland]

Re: Hotpoint Fimware question

den wrote:Had to check the date on that last post.
Thought it may have been from 1st April 😕

The actual reason it spins ‘the wrong way’ is because the earth spins the opposite way, meaning that, effectively, the rotation of the planet, combined with the opposite rotation of the drum, means that gravitationally, the clothes within are pushing against the surface of the drum with more pressure, relieving them of more of their moisture.
Thought everyone knew that.

The problem is … if everyone in China had their washing machines on spin at the same time (its possible, because, having Fenshui, all Chinese machines are lined up the same way,with their drum shafts facing North, so that the essence of evil dirt falls out of the South facing door portal), the combined force would work like a brake, and the world would stop spinning.
Therefore .. all hotpoint machines sold in China spin in the opposite direction to those sold in Europe, to balance the forces, and keep the planet revolving at roughly the right speed.
If you order a Chinese module, this would make your machine spin in the direction you desire.
Remember to pull out the plug before fitting the Chinese module or you may leceive a fatar eretric shock.

Haha that made me laugh out loud – 😆 where can I get a Chinese module then (apart from China that is?)

[andy_from_ireland]

Re: Hotpoint Fimware question (Solved!!)

16/10/12: I think I have found the problem once and for all and as a bonus I have the machine doing its final spin with the Drum going in a clockwise direction (like all my previous washing machines! and the way it should always be!!) all along I think all it was, was a pin on the motor wiring loom (motor end) that was open and not making contact properly only sometimes (one of the taco wires) so after closing that up so it makes proper contact and swapping the blue and black phase wires on the motor side of the loom the machine spins an a clockwise direction and goes through proper cycles, the machine couldnt have been getting a proper signal from the tacho and that why it kept stopping. Well i am hoping thats what it it, its early days yet but it looks promising! 🙂 I think my perseverance has finally paid off maybe! 😀

[Muv]

Re: Hotpoint Fimware question

Are u happy with it washing in a anticlockwise direction?

Maybe it takes in to little water?

Have u measured the time a wash takes, to the actual times quoted..

And if i were you id also check the length if the mains lead… Compared to your old machine!

[andy_from_ireland]

Re: Hotpoint Fimware question

Muv wrote:Are u happy with it washing in a anticlockwise direction?

Maybe it takes in to little water?

Have u measured the time a wash takes, to the actual times quoted..

And if i were you id also check the length if the mains lead… Compared to your old machine!

right am happy with it spinning Clockwise now,

It used to take in too little water so I have adjusted the screw on the water level switch,

There was no quoted times for a wash the manual says look at the display for times,

The mains lead is a bit long but can live with it,

Have de-soldered the blasted Buzzer behind the fascia,

Next project one day is to change the colour of the LCD display from Orange to blue (like my old hotpoint WF840),

Another project one day is to see if I can quieten the door lock switch on it so it doesnt go “bang, bang,bang” after end of cycle …

I think thats it apart from those things a cracking little machine and I have figured that I have already voided the warranty on it I may as well go to town and get it how I want it.

[Muv]

Re: Hotpoint Fimware question

They must love you down your local… I can hear them now..”here comes Andy, thick as the ass!”

Martin

[Muv]

Re: Hotpoint Fimware question

I hear that on the next generation of hotpoints, they will hve a small touch screen unit..
Basically it will ask things like

Do you want reverse spin? Yes..no…don’t really mind

Do you want interlock to go .”bang,bang,bang. Or just bang? Yes/no

Display colour Red,green,pink,orange, or user defined.?

Washing sound effects. Yes/no

Andy you have given us all a chuckle, and for that we are grateful…
Maybe you should get a job with hotpoint ?

Martin

[Jackal]

Re: Hotpoint Fimware question

Martin your being optimistic aren’t you!!

Every one knows being a Hotpoint it will have broken BEFORE question 3.

Maybe for the Irish market they should be badged Hotpotato. Ha ha

Regards

Jackal

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