Hotpoint WMA 11P filling then emptying after bearings change

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  • #79771
    WotThe
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    Hi,

    I’ve changed the drum bearings and seal in my WMA 11P and since I have re-assembled it, the machine starts to fill, turns the drum a few times then pumps out, it won’t wash the clothes. I can select a fast spin programme (Program P) and the machine fast spins perfectly OK, so there’s apparently nothing that’s gone wrong with the fitting of the replacement bearings, but what is causing this annoying ‘fill then pump out’ cycle and how do I fix it? It may be related to the pressure switch from reading around and as far as I can tell I have re-connected the main programmer board correctly.

    I’ve found some more symptoms. It seems to go directly to ‘Prog End’ after filling, it empties and the machine immediately unlocks the door, when it normally it holds the door locked for a short while before it unlocks.

    I have a spare programmer board from a WMA 13 First Edition that looks to be a straight swap for the board currently in the machine, but I don’t think that the board is faulty.

    What would cause the machine to go directly from ‘fill’ to ‘Prog End’ without a washing cycle?

    #410531
    timdowning
    Participant

    Re: Hotpoint WMA 11P filling then emptying after bearings ch

    If it was all ok before you did the repair then,logically, you must have wired it up incorrectly.

    #410532
    iadom
    Moderator

    Re: Hotpoint WMA 11P filling then emptying after bearings ch

    The pcb from a WMA13 will fit a WMA11 but needs programming to do so.

    Agree with Tim, if you haven’t touched the pressure switch then you have rewired the pcb incorrectly.

    If the door lock is properly energised it cannot open instantly either.

    #410533
    WotThe
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    Re: Hotpoint WMA 11P filling then emptying after bearings ch

    Thanks,

    Most of the wiring to the module (and the machine) can’t be connected incorrectly due to keyed plugs, although the 2-pin plug with all black wires can connect to two possible connections on the module, either X9 or X6 and I had marked them on the spare board, so it’s connected to X9. The hot water solenoid is on X2 and cold water on X11 and it’s filling water correctly, so what have I connected incorrectly to trigger an instant empty and ‘Prog End’? Even the pressure switch connections are keyed so you can’t get them wrong. The board is correctly programmed for a WMA 11 as I’ve checked that using information from the selfix-uk website. I’m stumped.

    #410534
    iadom
    Moderator

    Re: Hotpoint WMA 11P filling then emptying after bearings ch

    Those connections are wrong. And I should direct you to our forum rules.

    Rule 8


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    #410535
    WotThe
    Participant

    Re: Hotpoint WMA 11P filling then emptying after bearings ch

    Could you please be a bit more specific as to which of ‘those’ ones are wrong and which ones I need to change? Your reply isn’t much help to me.

    The pressure switch is connected with two reds to the left, two blacks to the right and they are keyed, so they can’t be switched over.

    Having read rule 8 now, I withdraw the request for a diagram. Apologies.

    My wiring to the control module matches the wiring seen at 1:21 in this Youtube clip.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcgN-1oQ4Ks

    #410536
    iadom
    Moderator

    Re: Hotpoint WMA 11P filling then emptying after bearings ch

    What puzzles me is how you say you have the hot valve connected to X2. 😕

    The hot valve is connected to pins 1+2 of the six way connector going to X5.

    X2 should go to the ntc.

    There is no way your connections are correct, regardless of that video.

    #410537
    WotThe
    Participant

    Re: Hotpoint WMA 11P filling then emptying after bearings ch

    Hmm, maybe I’ve confused myself when I’ve been tracing the wiring through, if the hot valve is part of the keyed six-way connector. As posted above, My wiring replicates the wiring in the video clip, so I am confident as I can be that nothing at that end is connected incorrectly.

    Maybe my error lies elsewhere in the machine.

    #410538
    WotThe
    Participant

    Re: Hotpoint WMA 11P filling then emptying after bearings ch

    Sorry, what’s an NTC?

    #410539
    iadom
    Moderator

    Re: Hotpoint WMA 11P filling then emptying after bearings ch

    NTC or thermistor. 😉

    #410540
    WotThe
    Participant

    Re: Hotpoint WMA 11P filling then emptying after bearings ch

    I think I understand, is that some kind of temperature control?

    #410541
    iadom
    Moderator

    Re: Hotpoint WMA 11P filling then emptying after bearings ch

    Correct. 🙂

    #410542
    WotThe
    Participant

    Re: Hotpoint WMA 11P filling then emptying after bearings ch

    I was working on my son’s motorbike yesterday for about five hours before I started with the washing machine. I was knackered after a long day and was making mistakes due to tiredness that I spotted immediately after a good night’s sleep, looking at the connections again with a clear head.

    ‘Johnny 5’ is apparently alive and doing a test wash as I type this. Thanks all! 🙂

    #410543
    iadom
    Moderator

    Re: Hotpoint WMA 11P filling then emptying after bearings ch

    :tup: …. 😉

    #410544
    WotThe
    Participant

    Re: Hotpoint WMA 11P filling then emptying after bearings ch

    It seems that I spoke too soon. My machine seems to function as it should apart from the fact that fast spin now appears to have gone missing. On Fast Spin program P, the machine has the pump running constantly but the drum just agitates in forward and reverse a few turns every 10 seconds or so, there’s no slow or fast spin. What have I got wrong now? I want to take a large hammer to this *@:£${e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d}!! machine now…

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