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February 4, 2018 at 4:20 pm #453600
touran daddy
ParticipantRe: Hotpoint WMA74 drum issue.
Covered in gunk but all still there. See what you mean about the spider screws.
The outer bearing inner diameter is 30mm so I guess I need a spider kit 30mm, new spider screws, a belt pulley bolt and a new drum joint seal.
Can you think of anything else Dave?
ThanksFebruary 4, 2018 at 5:51 pm #453601electrofix
ModeratorRe: Hotpoint WMA74 drum issue.
no
you only need 3 spider screws but use Loctite or I use the old evo stick to make sure they don’t back off
never needed the drum seal normally have no problems unless machine is washer dryer
you will need small cable ties
spider bolts
https://shop.ukwhitegoods.co.uk/quakit0 … ider-bolts30mm spider kit
https://shop.ukwhitegoods.co.uk/05hp32- … spider-kitthis is the non gen kit there is a gen
https://shop.ukwhitegoods.co.uk/1604770 … earing-kit
what bearing size is the inner bearing if you can read it ?
6206 30 mm shaft
6207 35mm shaft
as a checkbolt part number C00112686
few on ebay you could ask shop but may have to order in so ebay may be quicker
seal if you want it
https://shop.ukwhitegoods.co.uk/1603293 … tub-gasket
when you put the tubs back together make sure the tip of the heater sits under the lug on the tub front half. made that mistake lol
Dave
February 4, 2018 at 6:45 pm #453602touran daddy
ParticipantRe: Hotpoint WMA74 drum issue.
Thanks for all that Dave. Shaft of spider measured 34mm for inner bearing.
Have taken them to work to knock out as on night shift nowFebruary 4, 2018 at 7:46 pm #453603electrofix
ModeratorRe: Hotpoint WMA74 drum issue.
sounds like a 35mm which is good I think its a much better system as the seal is harder wearing
Dave
February 4, 2018 at 9:12 pm #453604touran daddy
ParticipantRe: Hotpoint WMA74 drum issue.
Inner bearing is 6207 which sounds good.
Just need to clean up the inner carrier and it has some corrosion but should be downhill from here!
ThanksFebruary 11, 2018 at 1:52 pm #453605touran daddy
ParticipantRe: Hotpoint WMA74 drum issue.
Hi Dave, All
Final entry
Ordered the 35mm non gen kit ( have to say, not impressed with the quality at all, pretty bad casting, scratching on the shaft and a fair bit of meat missing over the original design so don’t have a great deal of confidence in it lasting as long as the old one but time will tell) new screws and a bolt off the bay.
All cleaned up and looked brand new, screwed with loctite, bearings went in OK although the inner bearing water seal seemed to sit more proud than the old one so possibly bearing a little thicker and yes the bearings were fully seated.
Tub seal looked and felt perfect so re used after a clean.
Shaft of spider also didn’t protrude out of the outer bearing quite as far as the old one but as the pulley didn’t rub when bolted down left it as is. Attibute this to the water seal.
All in and working just fine. No leaks or strange noises.
Can’t believe the heater element didn’t fracture with the amount of smacking the drum took.
Only annoying thing was I managed to hoover up one of the white u shaped Spring protectors from the case when cleaning the inside of it. Fashioned a replacement of sorts and that’s that till the next time.
Many thanks again to all involved, next time I’d get a genuine spider though.February 11, 2018 at 4:37 pm #453606electrofix
ModeratorRe: Hotpoint WMA74 drum issue.
seals always look a little proud its normal don’t worry
glad u managed it and hope you made sure all cables clipped where they should be
give yourself a pat on the back
Dave
February 2, 2022 at 3:47 pm #453607touran daddy
ParticipantDragging up an old thread time.
so it appears I’m not great at replacing bearings/spiders on this machine, I get a couple of months before the screeching starts and the bearing noise when hand spinning is awful.
as far as I can remember I did the bearings again in June 2020, didn’t last long so changed bearings and spider feb 21, rear half with bearings but kept old spider as not been long in Aug 21 and now it’s unbearable again. All spares were genuine.
I have available a new rear half and new spider both genuine to try before I lose the Will to live and search the forum for the best new machine.Am I doing anything wrong with regards to fitting the spider into the half? I tap it home and tighten the bolt making sure there is no bearing play. There is the pulley, shaped washer then bolt.
are there any special tricks I’m missing?
p.s, what machine should I get next? Not worried about cost, family of 4 and never a day goes by with it not on so I want it to last and be repairable!
cheers all
Jez
February 2, 2022 at 4:31 pm #453608touran daddy
ParticipantNever mind guys, had the belt off and the motor is kaput. Time to order something else!
cheers
Jez
February 3, 2022 at 2:12 pm #453609appliancefreak86
Participantso going by your older comments, the machine is 20 years old now? had its day and you spend a fair amount in repairs by the sound of it, ebac machines seem to be well received, advertise them as repairable and made in britain, worth a look
February 3, 2022 at 6:53 pm #453610touran daddy
ParticipantCheers appliancefreak86, if I had time I’d change the bearings on the electric motor and sling in it again but a busy house demands minimum downtime
I have told the boss the next breakdown will probably end up in a new one as the old girl has done good I’ll check out EBac tooFebruary 3, 2022 at 11:52 pm #453611electrofix
Moderatorchances are you could not change motor bearing as a fixed pulley often stops the from one from being removed
Dave
February 4, 2022 at 4:44 pm #453612touran daddy
ParticipantCheers Dave
April 6, 2022 at 9:49 am #453613touran daddy
ParticipantMorning guys,
flogging a dead horse here, changed the electric motor and that side of things is good but the bearings in the drum have gone again.
this was a new pair of 35mm spider and rear drum separates in August as I mentioned above genuine HP.
Rear bearing is toast loads of movement, looks flushed out.
so I have one more spare rear half which I have dug out, spider shaft surfaces were ok but like the half drum before, when the pulley bolt is done up tight I can still get movement of the inner drum in relation to the outer, feels like a small gap on the inner bearing. The fit was the same before.
I assume I’m destined for failure again as I guess the water seal won’t do its job.
anything I should check before I put it together and start budgeting for a new machine as it seems I can’t even rely on new genuine spares?
thanks again
Jezi am liking the look of ebac for a next one though.
April 6, 2022 at 12:20 pm #453614electrofix
Moderatornormally these bearings, if fitted correctly don’t cause much problems
think I may have a complete rear half inc bearing knocking around somewhere
Dave
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