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  • #425896
    Seamy
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    Re: I really must not take advantage of customers…

    ZANUSSI ZDH8333PZ Heat Pump Condenser Tumble Dryer £399.99

    #425897
    reaper
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    Re: I really must not take advantage of customers…

    Comparing like for like with Zanussi ZDC8202P @ £249 and Zanussi Heat Pump Condenser Tumble Drier ZDH8333PZ @ £399 still a 25year difference. Sorry to be a tad pedantic but I originally had a scientific background and am very distrustful of corporate claims. However the flaw in my argument is that I’m still using the figures from the Hoover drier and extrapolating from that. It would be interesting to get the figures for like to like. This is what the likes of ‘Which’ should be doing.

    #425898
    stratfordgirl
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    Re: I really must not take advantage of customers…

    The energy labels specify typical running costs (in kWh) based on the standard european tests. Yes, manufacturers publish these test results, and they will do all they can to minimise the results, but are they really going to lie?

    While these tests may not fully reflect the real world use (much like the standard mpg figures for cars), I’d wager that they are a lot more stringent and reliable than the one off test done by Twicknix and should provide a reasonable basis for comparison.

    I believe Which also measure running costs as part of their assessments, but they obviously only cover a small fraction of the market.

    #425899
    kwatt
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    Re: I really must not take advantage of customers…

    stratfordgirl wrote:… but are they really going to lie?

    Look who regulates it Tim and who carries out the tests.

    The last batch tested by DEFRA (IIRC) was 27 models, the vast bulk of which did not meet the published energy ratings.

    K.

    #425900
    Martin
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    Re: I really must not take advantage of customers…

    So at what stage will we see junk piles of BER heat pump dryers stacked alongside fridges at the recycling plants?

    #425901
    twicknix
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    Re: I really must not take advantage of customers…

    Martin wrote:So at what stage will we see junk piles of BER heat pump dryers stacked alongside fridges at the recycling plants?

    Fridges are not easily recycled due to the insulation so the heat pump dryers don’t have the insulation which I guess go down the same route as washing machines. Perhaps it might worth more in scrap against washing machine?

    #425902
    Allsorts
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    Re: I really must not take advantage of customers…

    The heat pump dryers may not have the insulation as you say, but what they do still have is the oil in the compressor, which is still classed as a contaminant ..

    Nevertheless, I don’t suppose anyone will be able to recognise the difference between a heat pump dryer and a standard condenser dryer

    #425903
    Martin
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    Re: I really must not take advantage of customers…

    Allsorts wrote:Nevertheless, I don’t suppose anyone will be able to recognise the difference between a heat pump dryer and a standard condenser dryer

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    More especially guys going to a service call thinking it’s a regular condenser dryer and searching in vain for the element. 🙂

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