ISE W256W some clothes are shrinking at 40 degrees

[Manhattan24]

Hi,

I have just recently bought a W256W, everything is working very well except for one issue with it shrinking some clothes (1 jumper and 2 t-shirts so far) at 40 degrees. Not having issues with my previous washing machine I am getting a little confused with what could be causing it as I am checking the garment labels to make sure they can withstand the temperature.

I have tried 2 different wash cycles, Normal and Coloured/White both at the 40 degree temperature and 1600rpm speed.

Could anyone please suggest something I could try to stop the problem?

Also what is the best shortest cycle for lightly soiled clothes? The normal cycle lasts over 2 hours and is a bit too long.

Thanks

[don]

Re: ISE W256W some clothes are shrinking at 40 degrees

Hi

The temperature may be okay but the agitation and certainly spinning jumpers at 1600 could be where the problem lies. The shirts in question could also be the same issue.

An article here on care labels should help you identify the correct cycle for those items.

Sadly I don’t have a copy of the instructions to hand to guide you to a quick wash option, but you should find it in there.

HTH 🙂

Don

[andyjawa]

Re: ISE W256W some clothes are shrinking at 40 degrees

Totally unfamilar with ISE stuff BUT.and I know what follows is going to sound a bit daft- but you are 100{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} that your machine is plumbed into cold water OR if a hot and cold fill you have the pipes on the corresponding correct valves- i.e. the right way round?

[Martin]

Re: ISE W256W some clothes are shrinking at 40 degrees

andyjawa wrote:Totally unfamilar with ISE stuff BUT.

Then I think you should, if you are to contribute further, so just take a look HERE……and it’s cold fill by the way! 😉

[Manhattan24]

Re: ISE W256W some clothes are shrinking at 40 degrees

Thanks for the suggestion to reduce the drum speed. Could you please recommend a speed to try?

Thanks

[don]

Re: ISE W256W some clothes are shrinking at 40 degrees

For woollens no more than 800 spin you should use the woollens cycle for a gentle drum agitation.

What are the wash care symbols on these items?

Don

[kwatt]

Re: ISE W256W some clothes are shrinking at 40 degrees

Ensure that you are using a detergent suitable for woollens if they are woolen items as well or they will shrink due to that if they are wool or other such delicate natural fibres.

If that’s the case it will happen every time that you wash something like that using the wrong detergent, as I well know to my own cost and stupidity for not checking.

K.

[Manhattan24]

Re: ISE W256W some clothes are shrinking at 40 degrees

The jumper that shrank had 40 with 2 lines underneath on the label. It’s quite a mixture of materials, 49{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} acrylic, 23{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} nylon, 18{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} viscose, 6{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} angora and 1{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} wool. The T-Shirts are both 100{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} cotton and have got 60 on the label.

Thanks

[kwatt]

Re: ISE W256W some clothes are shrinking at 40 degrees

Put it this way…

If there was a problem with the machine that was causing it then it would destroy everything you put in it as, it would do the same thing over and over. It cannot selectively choose to only damage some items on some programs.

The temperatures sensor that is used however is a thermistor that is used for all wash programs, were there an error or fault with that then the machine would either shut down or report an error and halt.

The heater is controlled by that thermistor reporting to the PCB, which is hard coded so cannot be altered or alter itself.

So, that’s why I say that, if there was a fault with the actual washing machine, you’d know as it’d be either shut down or reporting an error and, even if somehow (although I fail to see how) that didn’t happen then it would do the same thing on every single wash you did and most likely continually heat, boil washing everything in it. However, I have to stress that the chances of that happening are virtually zero.

The jumper is a synthetic mix fibre and can only be washed on a synthetic or delicates cycle or, the fibres will become broken and shrinkage is possible. The bars are telling you to, basically, use a wool wash program with a very gentle or no spin although I’d personally err on the side of caution and drip dry it.

What detergent was used though?

TBH, the best program is the normal cotton 40?C for most everyday things and, with good reason that you can read about here:

http://www.ukwhitegoods.co.uk/help/buyi … ashes.html

HTH

K.

[Manhattan24]

Re: ISE W256W some clothes are shrinking at 40 degrees

Thanks for that information. To be honest I don’t have much knowledge in this area as my older machine was left on the same setting and seemed to deal with the clothes without any issues.

The detergent used was called Formil Non Bio liquid detergent.

If I use the normal cycle should I reduce the speed of the drum? If so what would be the best choice.

Thank you for all your help.

[kwatt]

Re: ISE W256W some clothes are shrinking at 40 degrees

Don’t know that detergent at all, never even heard of it. But, if it’s a non-bio liquid there’s no enzymes and no bleach or, there shouldn’t be. However, I can’t comment on it beyond that really on how well or if it performs.

The spin speed depends on the fabric care label which denotes the setting required, there’s really no way around that especially so with many modern fabrics and especially the mixed synthetic stuff. Trouble is that, if you mess it up, you wreck the clothing, I know as I’ve done it myself by not looking at the care label so I appreciate it’s an easy and common mistake to make. 🙁

You can reduce the spin speed but all fast washes and cotton washes will use a stronger wash action which can also damage some fabrics depending on what the garment manufacturer recommends. Usually these are at 54rpm on the wash whereas delicate and synthetic cycles are 34rpm, which is a considerable difference in the level of agitation.

All this is basic HLCC stuff that all washing machines adhere to these days although you may notice it more as, because of the energy reduction requirements, wash phases are longer. On older machines it wasn’t just as sensitive an issue as the wash times were shorter but then they used a lot more water and electricity.

HTH

K.

[admin]

Re: ISE W256W some clothes are shrinking at 40 degrees

The liquid is a Lidl brand basic wash liquid.

Bryan

[Manhattan24]

Re: ISE W256W some clothes are shrinking at 40 degrees

Forgot to mention another slight hitch that I’m having with the machine which is that after the machine has finished the drawer that you put the detergent in is filled with water, is this normal?

Would I be better off changing the detergent for a better quality one or doesn’t it matter? If yes could you recommend something.

Thanks

[iadom]

Re: ISE W256W some clothes are shrinking at 40 degrees

I use Ariel and Ariel Colour, powders in my ISE with excellent results.

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[andyjawa]

Re: ISE W256W some clothes are shrinking at 40 degrees

Martin wrote:Then I think you should, if you are to contribute further, so just take a look HERE……and it’s cold fill by the way!

Look for the obvious things first Martin no matter what the machine is……….Had this on a Bosch 2 weeks ago; that was all!-Tap was a blue lever= cold but was hot running through the pipe! Thank you for sharing the info on the ISE- bit elaborate to wash clothes is it not? May be a bit too clever for its own good.

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