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March 30, 2008 at 12:32 am #35617
Penguin45
ParticipantStarting to get a reward with these machines now.
One’s had a set of brushes, and one’s had a pcb and brushes in two separate calls recently.
Second one said “I should have taken the 5 years”. Difficult to be diplomatic and say “Yes”!
BTW, code 101 is motor out of circuit, not pump as in the Codes Book.
Chris.
March 30, 2008 at 9:15 am #247356Del
ModeratorRe: ISE5 – 1+5
Hi Chris,
Nice to see you are making a few bob on the machines. In all fairness we never meant the 5’s to be bomb proof, just economical to repair for both customer and the engineer supplying the machine.
Just as a matter of interest I’ve pasted on some information that might be usefull. We simulated some faults on the first few machines we had and the results are below. Section 6 might be of some interest, as some of the fault codes appear to double up for more than one fault.
HTH
Sean
Fault diagnostic indication access
To Access the fault indication mode, you must first, from a machine off, door unlocked state, set the program selector dial to the 12 o’clock position i.e. 90 degree cotton wash (see fig 1). You then have to press and hold the Start/Pause/Cancel ( S.P.C ) button whilst turning on the machine from the on/off switch until the Start/Pause/Cancel led lights up (see fig 2).Fig 1 fig 2
Program selector knob Program progress / fault indication Leds
Clearing logged faultsTo clear the logged fault code from the log you have to hold your finger on the S.P.C (Start Pause Cancel button) for about 5 seconds, after first accessing the error display mode and reading any logged fault.
fig 3 fig 4
If a fault occurs during the wash that prevents the machine from advancing then the machine often defaults to pause mode ie With the S.P.C led flashing and the program progress led, on either steady or flashing, for any of the following faults, along with the fault being logged in the fault indication log for any of the following faults :-a) Fill valves open circuit
b) No motor action
c) Pump open circuit
d) No water level sensingIf the fault is either a) Heater open circuit or b) NTC open circuit, then be aware that the wash program may well complete as normal and the only indication that there is a fault, is by checking the Fault display Log.
To enable us to give you more detailed information we carried out several independent tests on a number of machines, by different engineers, where we introduced simulated faults on the machines. The following is a list of the simulated faults applied to the machines along with their associated results and error codes.
Fault simulation tests
1) Prewash valve open circuit
ie disconnected pre wash valve then set machine onto a 60 degree cotton wash with pre wash option selected.After approx 8 mins. the machine defaulted to pause mode with the S.P.C. & wash leds flashing
NB Reset
It is important that before accessing the fault display indication mode that you turn off the machine via the on/off button and allow the door switch to unlock. Then reset the program selector switch to the 12 o’clock position to access the fault display indicating mode.ERROR CODE 110 DISPLAYED WHICH ALSO EQUATES TO H3: HEATER ALWAYS ON, in the supplied info sheet.
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Fault simulation tests
2) Main wash valve open circuit
i.e. disconnected main wash valve then set machine on 60 deg cotton wash no pre wash optionAfter about approx 5 mins machine filled from pre wash valve to first level then after a further 4 mins the machine defaulted to pause mode with the S.P.C. & wash leds flashing
NB Reset
It is important that before accessing the fault display indication mode that you turn off the machine via the on/off button and allow the door switch to unlock. Then reset the program selector switch to the 12 o’clock position to access the fault display indicating mode.ERROR CODE 110 DISPLAYED WHICH ALSO EQUATES TO H3: HEATER ALWAYS ON, in the supplied info sheet.
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3) Pressure switch open circuit
ie disconnected pressure switch and set machine to 40 deg cotton washOn starting the machine it pumps out straight away for approx 8 mins then no leds lit
NB Reset
It is important that before accessing the fault display indication mode that you turn off the machine via the on/off button and allow the door switch to unlock. Then reset the program selector switch to the 12 o’clock position to access the fault display indicating mode.ERROR CODE 111 DISPLAYED WHICH EQUATES TO H7: Water level sensor failure
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Fault simulation tests4) Heater open circuit
i.e. disconnected heater and set machine to 60 deg wash
Machine progressed right through the wash and completed as normal no leds flashing
NB Reset
It is important that before accessing the fault display indication mode that you turn off the machine via the on/off button and allow the door switch to unlock. Then reset the program selector switch to the 12 o’clock position to access the fault display indicating mode.ERROR CODE 010 DISPLAYED WHICH EQUATES TO H2: Heater open circuit
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5) NTC open circuit
i.e. disconnected ntc and set machine on 60 deg washmachine progressed right through the wash and completed as normal with no leds flashing
NB Reset
It is important that before accessing the fault display indication mode that you turn off the machine via the on/off button and allow the door switch to unlock. Then reset the program selector switch to the 12 o’clock position to access the fault display indicating mode.ERROR CODE 100 DISPLAYED WHICH EQUATES TO H1: NTC open circuit
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6) Motor harness plug loose or poor connection
ie disconnected main motor harness plug and set machine to spinAfter approx 10 mins the machine defaulted to pause mode with the S.P.C LED Flashing and the spin led on steady
NB Reset
It is important that before accessing the fault display indication mode that you turn off the machine via the on/off button and allow the door switch to unlock. Then reset the program selector switch to the 12 o’clock position to access the fault display indicating mode.ERROR CODE 101 DISPLAYED WHICH ALSO EQUATES TO H5: PUMP open circuit
Fault simulation tests
7) Pump open circuit
i.e. disconnected pump and set to rinseMachine fills for about 5 seconds then stops After approx 10 mins the machine defaulted to pause mode with the S.P.C LED flashing and the wash led on steady
NB Reset
It is important that before accessing the fault display indication mode that you turn off the machine via the on/off button and allow the door switch to unlock. Then reset the program selector switch to the 12 o’clock position to access the fault display indicating mode.ERROR CODE 101 DISPLAYED WHICH EQUATES TO H5: PUMP open circuit
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Please note that these service notes, tests, and fault codes should only be viewed as an indication and not a definitive diagnosis of any particular fault. Function checking, continuity tests and component testing will still be required to confirm a diagnosis of any fault.
Be aware that the control module itself could be faulty and as a result could give incorrect information.Along with the usual electrical safety checks, it is also important to carry out a rinse & spin test along with a final check of the fault indication log (i.e. no leds lit) on completion of all repairs, to ensure that all faults have been cleared.
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