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  • #99419
    Comports
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    Hello all,

    I have Kenwood Dishwasher (

    KID60X16) that does not seem to heat the water any more – its always cold and everything is soaking wet when the cycles finish. Easy to buy a replacement heater – its this one apparently, incorporated into the pump but I can’t find any videos on how to remove/replace it. There are many vids but most of them cover simple inline heaters.

    I dug around underneath and can see this part that needs to be swapped out but I can’t work out how to remove it all as its all kind of joiner together with lots of other stuff.

    Any ideas or hints would be very welcome.

    Thank you

    #476343
    electrofix
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    you need to check but this looks like the same part but the price is more freindly

    Dave

    https://shop.ukwhitegoods.co.uk/17476000001408-dishwasher-heating-element

    #476344
    Comports
    Participant

    Thanks Dave,

    I actually found the part already – I paid £28 + £3 delivery and am expecting it to arrive next Wednesday.

    The big question though is is there a how to or video on how to remove the old one – it seems to be connected to a lot more parts and just want to make sure I don’t break anything or go a long way round a simple job.

    Thanks
    Ash

    #476345
    electrofix
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    not changed that ons but principle is the same. undo the clips holding the hoses and remove the motor. change heater and replace

    i assume you have checked the heater is faulty ?

    with a lot of dishwashers the floor pan is removable, this is the first thing to check for

    Dave

    #476346
    Comports
    Participant

    Thanks Dave,

    yes floor pan came out and I can get to it all – No tsure how I’d test the heater as there seem to be loads of wires under there all grouped together.

    I can run my meter across the connectors (once its unplugged) to test the heater ‘coil’ itself but not sure much further than that

    Thanks for the advice re removal – It would probably become obvious once accessible.

    Ash

    #476347
    electrofix
    Moderator

    correct remove wires off heater and check for continuity

    if it reads under 100 ohms its ok and you need to re think

    Dave

    #476348
    Comports
    Participant

    Thanks again Dave,

    sorry for one last question – I see the hoses are connect with what I think are crimp clips – are these a one time deal (and need replacing with new – perhaps jubilee style) or can they be reused?

    Thanks
    Ash

    #476349
    electrofix
    Moderator

    you can reuse them, I do all the time

    you have to release them enough to remove them. after they are off you have to ease the crimp some more to get them open enough to put back

    to re crimp you need pincers

    if you cant you need some thin jubilee clips

    Dave

    #476350
    Comports
    Participant

    Hi Dave,

    Thanks for all the advice – the heater arrived, I swapped the old one out with the new and put it all back together and in place – I ran a wash through and all was fine with nice hot water so all sorted…… or so I thought….

    The next day however, I put a wash on as usual but the heater is again not heating the water. The replacement came with the thermostat included as its all built into the heater.

    Any ideas where I need to look next or clues on what could be causing the issue?

    Thanks
    Ashley

    #476351
    electrofix
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    has the heater blown or does it still have continuity ?

    Dave

    #476352
    Comports
    Participant

    The heater I took out has continuity when I press the small thermostat ‘button’ (inside the housing of the heater) – I assume the thermostat moves making the ciruit and when pressed I get continutity across the heater – and this is on the old one I took out – given the new heater did work for the first wash I’m wondering if there is a wiring fault going to the unit – I have seen other posts talikng about some blue wire from the control panel to the thermo..

    I would think it strange that both thermostats had gone. Especially the second unit being a new one – it there another thermo I need to find though – looking on the parts site I can see mention of a Turbidity Sensor when searching for thermostats.

    #476353
    Comports
    Participant

    On further reading, that turbidity sensor is not related – I gather it looks at the ‘cleanliness’ of the water to determine how dirty the dishes are 🙂

    I also suggest slightly incorrectly above – I always get continuity across the heater – I get continuity of the thermostat only when i press the button inside the housing – I’m guessing that is correct anyway as per nay simple circuit.

    #476354
    electrofix
    Moderator

    the switch you are pushing detects pressure to make sure the pump is running

    you need to make sure there is enough water to pressurize this sensor

    Dave

    #476355
    Comports
    Participant

    Thanks again Dave – There seems to be plenty of water in the dishwasher when its going but have no idea how to check the pressure – Nothing has changed in its setup and has been the same for years – I start by looking at the water feed in and check that there is no blockage in the cold feed I guess and trace from there.

    Is there some kind of an inlet pump that may have failed/got blocked per chance that is reducing the flow perhaps?

    Cheers

    #476356
    electrofix
    Moderator

    we have to make sure its working somehow but i dont know what sort of access you have to it

    if i am write you should have 1 wire going to the switch on the element. Then a link wire from the switch to the element
    so one way of testing it is to remove the wire from the switch , leave the link wire. then remove the other wire from the other side of the heater. insulate and make safe the wires you have removed and attach 2 wires of your own and bring them out of the dishwasher so you can attach a meter to the wires

    you can now run the dishwasher and with the ohoms scale you can see the switch close and read the resistance of the heater from the safety of a meter

    also i dont know where the heater control is on this unit but a lot of them are in the door. if it is check the continuity of the wire feeding the heater

    Dave

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