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All our repairs are front loaders so do not see many top loaders, but a problem has been new tenants starting machine with drum lid open,
are their top loaders that stop this happening. Customer wonted a recommendationmost wont allow this at least machine would not run with lid open even if there is no lock
what machine does you client have at the moment ?
Dave
oh i see its that type
yes had that . those machines are really a front loader type drum with a door to access the washing. hoover and whirlpool have (HN3156 slimstar) used to do them
non of them have door sensors although i dont think the hoover would allow you to close the main lid if the door was open only because it hit it
to stop this you would need to go for a true top loader like the old Hotpoint 1500 series. As far as i know only the American Maytag machines do this now as house sizes in the uk mean top loaders take up too much space. They are expensive and require a hot water feed to work as there is no heater installed. They are however, very tough and easy to fit parts when required as you can drop the gearbox drive out of one in less than 20 mins
Dave
I think all American style top loaders were effectively banned from sale around 10 years ago due to EU ecodesign legislation – they are hugely energy hungry. They have fallen out of favour in the US for the same reason.
As far as I know Whirlpool (France?) still produce the euro style top loaders under Whirlpool and Hotpoint brands. These are of very compact, much narrower than a front loader, and come with retractable rollers for mobility. One of my customers bought one from Appliances Online a year or two back to replace an older one with failed bearings. But the drum door catch has no interlock. If there is space for a front loader, that would be a solution, or a big laminated warning sign advising any damage due to misuse must be paid for by the tenant!
stratfordgirl wrote:I think all American style top loaders were effectively banned from sale around 10 years ago due to EU ecodesign legislation – they are hugely energy hungry. They have fallen out of favour in the US for the same reason.
cant see what they mean about energy as there is no heater unless they are adding the hotwater heat loss down the feedpipe etcyes you can still get them but but from about £900
https://www.cateringhygiene.co.uk/sh…g-machine.html
Dave
cant see what they mean about energy as there is no heater
It’s just the sheer volume of water the American top-loaders use relative to a front loader – energy required to heat the water is pretty much the same whether heated inside or outside the machine.
On the original A-G energy rating scale, these machines tended to be rated G. When the revised A+++ to D scale came in nearly 10 years ago, machines with a rating worse than D were effectively banned from sale. I guess the reason the are still available from some outlets is that they are exploiting a loophole by marketing them for non-domestic use.
that makes sense there is probably a gallon under the tub but they do outlast most other machines and they have a 15kg loading so like 2 loads in one
yes if youre on a water meter it could be a no no
do you remember the parnell; top loader where you did the wash then you could choose whether to pump the water out or pump to save. you could then spin and pump the water back in and use it again. Just popped into my head, now am showing my age lol
Dave
The British top loaders were before my time (at least since I started this trade). I only once remember receiving an enquiry. The American ones I only get an enquiry for a couple of times a year, and have always declined. I’ve been out to a few of the French ones, including one with the lid stuck in the tub – surprisingly straightforward to resolve after taking the side off the tub, I seem to remember.
I say before my time, but I distinctly remember my mum using one of these for a while in our bathroom, donated by a family friend:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSoCokINKVw
I particularly enjoyed feeding sheets through the mangle as a 6/7 year old – no ‘elf and safety then! The machine replaced a Hoover Keymatic which had cost an arm and a leg in call-outs from the local appliance repair shop. I don’t think we had the top loader long before my parents splashed out on an AEG automatic.
my thats a but full, There was a max fill line on the tub and thats way above that.
yes worked on a few of those, still think I have some screws to hold the ringer mounts that used to corrode and snap.the American machines are a treat to work on. part are listed as easyfit and they are not wrong
Dave
Oh memories of power unit changes on Hotpoint Toploaders come to mind. I’m sure Montpellier do a slimline toploader – yep they do Google
Montpellier MTL6120WLawrence wrote:Oh memories of power unit changes on Hotpoint Toploaders come to mind. I’m sure Montpellier do a slimline toploader – yep they do Google
Montpellier MTL6120Wi used to buy the gears and rebuild the gearboxes. They were the days when you could buy all the gearbox parts. add some car rear axle oil and it worked a treat. probably still got the odd gear in the draw
Dave
yes i have lol
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