Martin ‘Indeed’

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I’m sorry to have to say that my initial view of Martin has so far never let me down.

He got into the war room by accident even though none of the subject matter or topics contained therein apply to him. For the sake of harmony and the risk him going off on yet another paranoid fueled tantrum you were obliged to let him stay and I was obliged to appologise to him for comments I made in that supposed private forum. I have to admit that the appology still sticks in my craw to this day.

Especially as he takes full advantage of the privacy of the moderators forum to rubbish and castergate other members of the site.

He pulls guy’s up for spelling mistakes an takes a holyer than thou attitude
in a lot of his responses.

IMHO if we were going to give the job of chief test pilot to anyone with regard to the ISE machine it should have been Jim Banks who has already demonstrated his full committment to the project and who would have had as much to loose as ourselves as he has supplied more of them than anyone else to his own customers.

I would have thought that even a moron with half a brain cell would realise how sensitive, derogetory remarks or findings would be in public to the promotion of our first appliance and should have first been reported to Ken or Kev.

I’m sure John wont be too impressed and I can’t help feeling that it is only a matter of time before we get the next gaffe from our friend Martin.

FFS take the machine off him before he does any more damage with it !

Sean

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I assume that you’re on about the POS post he made?

Martin is anal about spelling etc., one of the reasons for putting him on the instruction book, but he’s also very meticulous and thorough in what he does as well as having every afternoon free.

He does annoy at times and does ramble on a bit but then that could be said of any of us.

K.

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Try checking out the ‘Machine on Test’ thread in the ISE forum.

http://www.ukwhitegoods.co.uk/modules.p … ic&t=14020

We have employies running round the country doing their level best to generate interest and confidence in our product and this jumped up little twat is rubbishing the appliance we are trying to promote on our very own site.

He was given the job of re-writting the manual and checking out the machines operation full stop but in his infinate omnipitence he has decided to widen his remitt and has taken it upon himself to be the oricle and mouthpiece of all things ISE.

I would strongley suggest you reign him in or I’ll be phoning him for a little cellar chat, after which he will no doubt be throwing his dummy out of the pram again.

Sean

[kwatt]

You’re letting it get to you again Sean, take a chill pill. 😆

Thing is, would we rather know these things now and tackle them early than get blindsided later? Personally I go for the former. The more information you have in advance then the easier it is to come up with answers in the longer term.

We get a LOT of complaints on wash times as, when they are quoted in most manuals, they are set under “ideal” conditions that do nt reflect real world use. This is especially prevelant in some areas of Glasgow with low water pressure, high-rise flats and tank fed townhouses which totally throws the times quoted out the window. So the caveat must be made in the book that the wash times quoted require the correct conditions or they may not be achieved. That is within the scope of the instruction manual and could save a lot of hassle at the back end.

Also note that two people, one being me, have already said that they do not find this to be the case, which means that it probably is localised conditions that are causing the problem. He’s not slagging it off, he’s looking to find the reason I think.

K.

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Hi Sean,

Early yesterday morning about 6am I posted in the Mods forum under the title, “a little thought please”

Basically I reminded Martin to not air his test results in public but to share them with us, first. So that if we had problems we could solve them quietly with Beko before we had to go public…..

Martin has aplogised in a PM to me. Citing he thought the ISE forum was invited people only, not all who sell plus him.

So thats sorted, no need for a cellar chat, don’t know what happened to my post though, I presume Martin deleted it 😕

Kevin

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Thanks Kev, It’s a shame he didn’t have the presence of mind to delete his own post.

My whole point here is that it is difficult enough to promote and inspire members to get involved in a new brand or venture, to the point where they actually order machines, without a moderator from UKW casting doubts into our target audiences minds.

If we have to continue with Martin’s Dubious services then has he actually got a step chart of the appliance, to compare its performance with what it is supposed to do ? Has he created his own table of performance against stated operation ?

What I feel concerned about is that if he is going to do the job then he has to do it right over several tests on each wash programme including their variations and report back exclusively to us rather than posting knee jerk reviews in site forums on its first wash after hooking it up.

The eventual plan was always over time to develop the best machine in the land within its price range. As we are all aware we have to start somewhere to build that brand and some credibility with volume sales so that manufacturers will also take us seriously.

Have you actually given him a remit of his roll / received assurances of confidentiality from him ? if not then I for one am not happy for him to continue to be the person to test the appliance. I have tried my best to give reasoned argument in this post if not the thread.

Incidentally is there any possibility of P&G testing the appliance for us as originally suggested or has that totally fallen by the wayside because this would have far more credibility than anything Martin could ever do.

Sorry but chilled or not that’s how I feel.

Sean

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Martin is NOT testing the appliance but using it to re write the user guide. In that he is checking times ect, but is not testing the appliance for longevity, reliability ect ect..

He strictly has an appliance to be able to produce some user shots of the fascia, extract exact sequence of lights and unravel the beko translation to english.

Kevin

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