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January 14, 2021 at 2:30 am #98950
Markpd
ParticipantNo room for a slimline one, so I need compact/freestanding/table top dishwasher (whatever they’re called).
I was looking at the Bosch SKS62E32EU Series 4 (as I got a Bosch washing machine recently), but at £449 that’s quite a bit more than I was expecting, and more than my new Bosch washing machine was! 😮 It does have a 2yr warrantee (is that still extendable to 5yrs?).
A 2nd problem is that where I’d want to put the dishwasher their might not be enough space for that one. Depending exactly what Bosch and e.g Klarstein mean by ‘width’ and ‘length’, looking at the pictures it seems they mean opposite things!:confused:
If width means the size across the door, then in the Bosch’s case (55cm) that’s a problem, the max I have is 52cm (and that’s with 4cm overhang), unless I pull it forward about 15cm and leave a massive gap behind it (the stupid council contractors put the boiler down too low and the taps get in the way!). Alternately I’d have to put it much further from the sink.I’m also looking at the Klarstein Amazonia 6 as Home appliance geek reckons that’s the best one, although I noticed on 1 amazon review of that, that they weren’t able to get spares for it once it was out of warrantee! Which is no good.
It’s ~£285, warrantee is only 1yr though. And I can’t work out if it’s width (across the door) is 55 or 50cm (just noticed that website says there both about 55cm wide and 50cm deep, is that right?).
Are Klarstein, Comfee or Cookology (another one mentioned by that website) any good?Are their other ones I should consider? Their’s a dearth of information about these out there :(.
January 14, 2021 at 9:56 am #474455electrofix
Moderatorwell have never heard of Klarstein, Comfee, cookology sound familiar
what this means is any spares would be a nightmare and under guarentee or after backup may be non existant or difficult
stick with the Bosch you will have no problems with aftercare
Dave
January 14, 2021 at 10:03 am #474456electrofix
Moderatorhad a look for the manufacturers Klarstein, Comfee and cookology
Klarstein and Comfee dont appear either in the manufacturer listing on this site or the listings of a major parts supplier in the uk.
cookology does appear on here
https://www.ukwhitegoods.co.uk/help/about-the-appliance-industry/manufacturer-information/4415-cookology-appliancesbut again no spares avaiable on the site i looked at
all you have to do is break something and you may need a new dishwasher
Dave
January 14, 2021 at 11:46 am #474457Markpd
ParticipantThanks for the info, no parts is no good! It’s funny you know, when I 1st read the brand Cookology I thought that sounded like a dodgy cheap Chinese make! So no surprise there.
I’m surprised by the Klarstein make being unknown though, I think I read somewhere that it is supposedly a German brand.
I looked on their website, not much info there, nothing about the company and no mention of spares. Also I saw this, which the part I’ve highlighted looks dodgy!
Warranty is the statutory obligation of the seller to amend within two years after delivery of any defects on a device or to replace it . In this context, the burden of proof according to ยง476 BGB is to be noted that is the purchaser after a period of six months in the obligation to prove that the defect already existed at the time of purchase.
Sounds like a get out clause of honouring any warrantee after 6mths! Is that even legal?? (btw those weird characters are as it was from their website).
[edit] Why is the italics that is supposed to be above in the preview and not in the post??Is their no manufacturer other than Bosch to consider?
January 14, 2021 at 12:18 pm #474458electrofix
Moderatorzanussi do one
zanussi is part of electrolux group which includes AEG Tricity bendix as well so any of these makes
there is not a big market for these so they tend to be dearer as they cannot be mass produced to the same scale as larger ones.
Bosch and Zanussi have no parts or service problems but the chinese imports have dubious quality and backup
Dave
January 14, 2021 at 12:39 pm #474459Markpd
ParticipantJust seen a Zanussi one mentioned, so good to know their a worthy contender, along with AEG, Tricity & Bendix 🙂 (or is that 1 name?).
I was wondering about paying to access the Which reviews, but they’re 4-5yrs old! And the Bosch xx22xx model they’ve reviewed has been replaced by a xx32xx model recently, so not much point reading those reviews. [edit] Well the Zanussi ZDM17301WA is still available so maybe I could get my step mother to read the review, she has a sub ;).
How does Zanussi & co’s reliability compare to Bosch’s?And yea I was beginning to think it must be a small market by the limited choice.
January 14, 2021 at 12:43 pm #474460electrofix
Moderatorto be honest i dont rate which reveiws
think about things you have bought yourself, you would write a reveiw just after you got it, when things are still rosy and its doing its job 100{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d}. We see those jobs 2 years later when we struggle to get parts and get any sense out of manufacturers
Dave
January 14, 2021 at 1:17 pm #474461Markpd
ParticipantYea fair point, although they do at least test if they are any good at their job.
Although I’ve just found that out using reevoo user reviews of the Zanussi, loads of people are saying it’s small internally (some compare to the previous model) and won’t take plates over 10″ without tilting them, so I’ll probably pass on that one!
Btw, I post updates to my reviews (where I can), even if it’s years later ;).So How does Zanussi & co’s reliability compare to Bosch’s?
January 14, 2021 at 1:30 pm #474462electrofix
Moderatorboth brands reliability has lowered over the years as consumers push for lower prices but Bosch is ahead, slightly
Dave
January 14, 2021 at 2:41 pm #474463Markpd
ParticipantI’m going to go for the Bosch, although their are fewer reviews of it, no one has mentioned problems with getting large plates in it, not to mention it’s better warrantee and reliability.
I will have to hang the dishwasher over the edge, lol, and if the feet go over the edge too I will simply put a wooden beam on top of the fridge to support it! Hardly elegant, but it’ll barely be visible! 😉1 more question, I found one for sale at £350, apparently bought in error and never used, it’s being sold by an individual. It has no box, they do have the invoice from AO though. But would the warrantee be valid under my ownership?? (If not, I won’t bother).
January 14, 2021 at 7:03 pm #474464don
ModeratorNot being funny, how can you buy a table top dishwasher in error? I am always suspicious of something that appears to be a “good deal.”
I would leave it well alone it’s only another £90 for a brand new boxed one from AO and you know there will not be a problem with the guarantee either.
January 14, 2021 at 7:42 pm #474465Markpd
ParticipantWell, they claim their father ordered it in error, but who knows.
£99 is not something to turn your nose up at :p.The main thing is, can the warrantee be transferred?
January 14, 2021 at 7:48 pm #474466don
ModeratorIf it has been registered then no. I don’t know if AO register the guarantee’s automatically by their invoice straight to the manufacturer. Could be worth asking AO.
I always go by Caveat emptor when faced with this situation 😉
Don
January 14, 2021 at 8:39 pm #474467Markpd
ParticipantRoger that, I’ve asked them a bunch of questions, including about the warrantee, even if he says yes then I will contact AO to ask them.
If he says no then that’s the end of that 😉 -
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