New Hotpoint Cycle Times

[Coldpoint]

Hi all,

Been a while since I was last on here. Old washer/dryer failed catastrophically a few months ago, absolutely did not want another Hotpoint after all the trouble I had with the previous one…but it turns out the gap in my kitchen is too small to fit any decent brands so I’ve ended up with another Hotpoint. Model number NBD8635WUK.

First major issue is there’s no longer a 60c 60minute Fastwash programme at all. Shortest 60c cycle is 3 hours which is unusable with my health conditions. The only shorter cycle is the ‘Rapid 30’, which should be 30c for 30 minutes, but I can’t get that to complete within the displayed 30 minutes. Seems to take 45 minutes even after reducing load weight to well below the book figure and reducing spin speed as well. Cold water pressure is very good here so don’t think it’s that. And the kitchen ambient temp was above 30c when using the machine, outdoor temps well above 20c, so it shouldn’t take long to heat water to 30c.

I need to know which other variable is causing the time to extend mid cycle? It does start at 30 minutes on the display, after going through a frankly ridiculous pre-cycle test where it locks the door, rolls the drum twice, then unlocks and relocks the door again. That seems to provide no function other than creating extra wear on the door lock. Sadly I don’t have the luxury of time to try all possible combinations of weight/temp/spin etc. I really just need to know how to make it complete the wash in 30 minutes, as shown in the handbook.

Second issue is that it has a ‘Rapid’ button, which hardly seems to be accepted on any programmes. It is accepted on the 3hour 60c Synthetic cycle, with the display suggesting that time is reduced by half to around 1h30m but also reduces spin speed to 1000rpm (so will take longer to dry) and I assume there’s less agitation in a Synth cycle as well. I definitely can’t risk starting that cycle unless I know it will complete in the displayed 1h30. So again need to understand which variables would cause it to change during a cycle.

Lastly, I will need to replace this washer/dryer again at some point in order to get a reliably useable 60c wash cycle. If anyone knows of a current model from almost any brand that still does a 60c wash in about 1 hour please let me know as that is the cycle I used regularly on the older washer.

Thanks in advance,
Coldpoint

[electrofix]

if it was a very old washer dryer cycle times would have been shorter as it will have used hot water to speed up heating. all modern ones use cold water only

not a great lover of either Hotpoint or Hoover these days they are not what they once were. Hoover is chinese owned and 80{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} of hotpoint has just been sold to Beko so expect design changes soon

As for your problem. the programme times have always been a guide and are altered by input water temp. input water speed, loading etc

Will tag our retail guru in to see if he has any info

also why was Hotpoint the only option as all machines are based on standard sizes

Dave

[USER=”125″]don[/USER]
any info ?

[don]

Problem is the bigger drum has to go somewhere which is why washing machines and washer dryers are deeper. If it’s a height problem the lid can be removed on some brands and a height reduction lid fitted. Widths havn’t changed much they should still fit in a 60cm wide space.

As for your timing query the best ones I know of are the Bosch and Whirlpool machines for 60 minute cycles. A lot of research will be required by studying the manuals.

The instructions are really only a guide and as as Dave said it’s all about “variables.” Problem nowadays is that consumers are wanting much greener appliances which leads to your issue. Sadly you can’t have the best of both worlds.

Don

[kwatt]

It’s an old article, and there are others along the same lines with yet more info but this is a good enough place to start:

https://www.ukwhitegoods.co.uk/help/buying-advice/washing-machine/2912-wash-times-quick-washes

Essentially, you will not get a machine that washes the same way as an old one from the old days due to design changes and legislation.

K.

[Coldpoint]

Hi,

Thanks for the replies.

I haven’t got anywhere near the drying cycle yet, this is purely the wash only times. The wash & dry combined time for cottons comes up as 9 hours on the display! (In fairness, sensor drying should reduce that a bit, but no way of knowing how much without trying the full cycle.)

I understand newer machines use less agitation and include some stationary ‘soak time’ to save energy, which is fine as an option, but I also feel most people need a quick 60c option for conveniently disinfecting certain items. I can’t imagine 3 or 4 hour wash-only cycles are of much use to a Mum with young children for example.

Regarding size, it is the width that’s the problem. I also thought all machines were 60cm but that isn’t the case. Hotpoint (and equivalent Indesit) are only 59.5cm. The gap is so tight here that there is definitely not 5mm to spare. Some machines claim to be 59.7cm, but even that would be too much of a risk for an item that is so awkward to have delivered. (I live in an upstairs flat and can no longer manoeuvre a machine myself.) I had the same issue with a fridge freezer a couple of years ago, gap too narrow to fit a decent quality appliance, no idea who designed this place. There’s also no separate switch for the washing machine, so when the old one got stuck on continuously pumping dry, with a potential fire risk, I could not pull switch it off or unplug myself. Had to pull the main sockets isolator switch for the whole property and wait until someone could come over to pull the machine out for me. Really don’t want a repeat of that any time soon.

[electrofix]

in actual fact the 600mm is the gap the kitchen fitter should have left and they dont sometimes,
seen it loads

Dave

[admin]

It sounds frustrating to deal with those long wash cycles.

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