New Steam ovens etc

[grannyfixit]

There seem to be new Steam generating ovens coming onto the market

Any chance someone knows how and what they are put together with

what they use to heat the water

i.e Are any of the parts Aluminium

[kwatt]

Re: New Steam ovens etc

grannyfixit wrote:i.e Are any of the parts Aluminium

Yes, in every one I’ve seen thus far.

K.

[grannyfixit]

Re: New Steam ovens etc

I guessed that would be the case

Funny how i have an all stainless steel electric kettle which cost peanuts effectively yet they put cheap and nasty Aluminium in Expensive new fangled ovens

But like I said sooner or later the scientists will admit the dangers and then the lawsuits against manufacturers will fly

[adamhornsby]

Re: New Steam ovens etc

i honestly dont know why you have a negative about aluminium. Besides you are wrong, very wrong in fact, aluminium is certainly not cheap and nasty, it is actually very expensive, light but tough, and is used on prestigous products such as Jaguar cars for example. It is also a very good heat conductor which makes it suitable for ovens.

I cant understand all these manufacturers, it was Miele who developed the first combi and steam ovens and the first built in coffee machine, funny how other brands jump on the band wagon.

[cockney steve]

Oh Dear, Adam, there you go again!
“It is also a very good heat conductor which makes it suitable for ovens.”

The object of an oven is to RETAIN heat, not conduct it!

It may well be expensive,per TON, but I can assure you that it provides a lot more square feet per ton (or square metres per tonne if you prefer! ) than any other metal at that price-level.

The reason that car manufacturers use it, is Fuel-efficiency due to lighter weight. “quality” doesn’t enter the equasion.

[kwatt]

Re: New Steam ovens etc

I’m so glad you get the point, in more ways that one Steve, the point of an oven is to retain heat, not dissipate it. As I often remind people, both cooking and cooling are all about temperature stability.

I had to laugh though at the notion that Miele invented steam cooking.

So the Chinese with steamed rice and various other dishes for the past 2000 years or so… well, we’ll just ignore that eh Adam? Or that steam cooking is, in effect, what many roasting dishes accomplish without the need for a £1000 Miele oven.

Oh and the first built in coffee machine, well if you’d ever worked on one you’d know that they are the most awkward pig of a thing to repair, so much so we charge a LOT extra due to the time they eat up. Parts aren’t cheap either by a long way, more so on Miele products.

However if you want the Rolls Royce of coffee machines forget Miele’s tricks and go look at a proper Swiss made Jura machine. Better, faster, cheaper and the coffee they produce is sublime. If you want real coffee and you’re going to pay Miele prices it’s a far better product.

Stop reading company propaganda Adam and actually learn something for yourself.

Are you trying to become the Miele poster boy or something?

As for the aluminium causing a reaction, to be honest I don’t know for sure. It might, it might not and I’m not qualified to argue the case either way, neither are you I expect.

K.

[helo_75]

or me

but theres one thing for sure

if adam opened his mouth just a little bit wider, hed get his other foot in as well

thing is, its not our job to be scientists, or implement design criteria for the sake of (as far as WE know) 1 person who really has a beef about it, why has this argument continued?

we advise on things, we’re engineers

if people spent time complaining to the manufacturers, instead of whinging on here, maybe the manufacturers might listen

its almost as good as the fuel protesters on weds, whos protest involved wasting petrol, causing congestion, annoying the general public while gordon brown and his chronies on downing street count the extra money through fuel duty thats being wasted in protest about said thing

grr.. adam, you know how to light the fuse……

cue grannyfixit……….

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