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July 20, 2014 at 10:43 pm #81536
clashcityrocker
ParticipantHave read on various sites that this is a pretty common problem, and it’s down to the fan.
Pulled the oven out tonight, and i’m a tad confused. Are there TWO fans? One on the back panel, and one inside?
The reason I ask, is the fan I can see looks like a bog standard 230v 120×120 panel fan,
Same as this:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? … 0646587400
But the spare part shown here is totally different..
http://www.partmaster.co.uk/new-world/n … ref=400663
Do I need to dig deeper to find a second fan??
Many thanks.
July 21, 2014 at 7:05 am #416934Martin
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clashcityrocker wrote:Pulled the oven out tonight, and i’m a tad confused. Are there TWO fans? One on the back panel, and one inside?
Correct, the first one is a cabinet cooling fan the second the main oven hot air fan.
July 21, 2014 at 6:17 pm #416935clashcityrocker
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Hunted high and low, and can’t see a second fan, is it possible that there is just a rear panel fan on mine? There is no access from inside the oven or grill compartment like many youtube videos show (which seem to relate to electric ovens).
There doesn’t seem to be anywhere for wires to go to a second fan.
Rear: https://www.anonimg.com/img/8570b4f2306 … c7db6d.jpg
Top: https://www.anonimg.com/img/8ccbe96fd95 … 8f3439.jpg
Control PCB: https://www.anonimg.com/img/04ad5b88c6f … 18b89c.jpg
Ignitor: https://www.anonimg.com/img/f8f4f925d1b … 8138a1.jpgThe rear panel fan does seem to be making a right old knocking noise even after cleaning up, so definitely need a new one of them.
For the moment, it’s all back together and working in just oven mode.
This might be a total numpty question, the handbook for the oven calls it’s a “conventional oven”, does this mean it’s not fan assisted?
July 24, 2014 at 11:31 am #416936clashcityrocker
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Definitely only one fan..
July 24, 2014 at 12:16 pm #416937Martin
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We don’t have much experience with gas appliances or dual fuel stuff. Hence why response to your problem has been somewhat lacking. 🙁
July 24, 2014 at 2:36 pm #416938clashcityrocker
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That’s OK, I posted the pic in the hope it might help others in the future.
I’m going to replace the fan, if it’s still playing up, then I’ll get someone in that knows about gas stuff. It’s all about knowing your limits.. 😯 😯 😯
July 24, 2014 at 8:18 pm #416939Seamy
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Are you Gas Safe registered Engineer ?
July 24, 2014 at 9:50 pm #416940clashcityrocker
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Nope but i know my limits and trust my work more than paying over the odds for some unknown bodger with no diagnostic skills whatsoever that’s paid a fortune to get a noddy certificate to charge me to throw parts at it until it works.
Sadly this is what 99{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} of tradespeople in this country have become. No need to understand how something works, just replace bits in this order…
(rant over)
I haven’t touched any gas other than the bayonet fitting to remove the oven. If I get to the point I need to, I will assess if it’s cheaper to buy a new oven.
I hope I haven’t upset of the Gas Safe cartel and will wake up with a horses head in the bed….
July 24, 2014 at 10:27 pm #416941admin
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I haven’t touched any gas other than the bayonet fitting to remove the oven. If I get to the point I need to, I will assess if it’s cheaper to buy a new oven
RANT !! if you can’t be bothered to spend the money or time to gain the experience then don’t touch the appliance.. RANT over !!
If YOU disconnect the bayonet then YOU must be gas safe registered..And yes some of us do think its worth while spending the money to be qualified.. Training may be a loss for engineers but at the end of the day its worth it.
Bryan
July 29, 2014 at 11:26 pm #416942philfish
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If your fan is running albeit it noisy and producing sufficient air flow it ain’t your fan, (the fan on this model as a dual purpose) but you need to know what your doing to see if that is working correctly. So you will need some sort of bodger / gas safe engineer who as been bothered to get training, qualified and years of experience to tell you what you being as clever as you are don’t know, or you could ask someone on the internet who is just as wise as you in this situation and trust their judgment.
Failing that you could always look at perhaps a flame supervision device etc, you know the thing that cuts off the gas to the grill, it just might be that, but, it is a uneducated shot in the dark which after years of just changing parts till it works and charging clever people to much for my limited knowledge, experience and qualifications, happens frequently. but yet again just a guess so you would need that uneducated, under experienced expensive bodger sorry gas safe engineer to fit it because you have to fit it to the gas tap which in turn sits directly on a gas main so it’s a BIG BIG NO NO for you to touch it or even try to diagnose it!
Or it even could be something as simple as cleaning fluid blocking the grill burner if you’ve cleaned the oven recently. But you would need an expensive idiot sorry gas safe engineer yet again to change the grill burner because it’s gas and you quite blatantly don’t know what your talking about.Qualifications and gas safe was brought into stop people like yourself from messing. Basically to stop cowboys and the general public from themselves, and it basically boils down to them just because too tight to pay the going rate for the right person to do the job, so they try to get it done on the cheap or by their “own trustworthy, unqualified, inexperienced hands” and risking peoples lives and homes in doing so just to save a couple of quid.
Winds me up people getting info from the net throwing money at parts (but won’t pay a tradesman though) believing they’ve found the cure when usually it is some other idiot who don’t know the job advising them, then they have the nerve to slag the ones off who do know what they are talking about, have done the training, have got qualified, experienced, paid thousands out, jumped through hoops year in year out to be gas safe registered and we dare to have the audacity to ask to be paid a living for our knowledge. What? How dare we?! I mean everyone else works for nothing after they’ve been trained don’t they?!You need a gas safe engineer for this job end of chat! It won’t be expensive and realistically shouldn’t cost to much when you way up what he as had to go through to even get to your door. It will be a damn site cheaper than a new cooker…… And remember if you have a new cooker you still need that bodger sorry I mean gas safe engineer to install it which will cost you just the same again.
An experienced qualified engineer should have it done in way way under an hour plus necessary parts.Rant over,
Phil
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