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Just wanted to know what the law says about LPG gas and electric checks on caravan.
There is a guy at the caravan servicing place who does it for years and is not corgi or gas safe registered. Is it legal for him to carry out checks although he is not allowed to produce certificate? The wife says he’s been doing it since he left school and he is 42 years old.
My understanding that LPG registration seems rather vague as it does not have the same weightings as domestic gas installations where you are required to have Gas Safe registered engineer.
Can anyone explain it and what the law says concerning LPG appliances on caravans?
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It falls under Gas Safe, if he’s not Gas Safe registered and carrying this out commercially then he is breaking the law.
There is nothing vague about it I’m afraid.
K.
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kwatt wrote:It falls under Gas Safe, if he’s not Gas Safe registered and carrying this out commercially then he is breaking the law.
There is nothing vague about it I’m afraid.
K.
Carrying out commercially, do you mean if he’s paid to do the checks but not legally allowed to do it then he is breaking the law? If he does this, can he be reported and who can deal with him?
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He can do it on his own property only and not be breaking the law.
Do it for anyone else, paid or not and it’s a breach.
Gas Safe and/or HSE will go after him if he gets caught, probably with gusto as it’s an easy win for them. That’s who he would be reported to as well.
K.
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It’s very hard to find someone who can service the caravan at this time of the year. I guess I will have to get him to carry out the checks in order get evidence (- name and what he did to it) rather than heresy so I can report it to Gas Safe with concrete evidence. I will get another guy to do the Gas checks another time as we only use the cooker and oven. The usual guy who does it (different firm) is off sick at the moment with kidney stones and will be off till September. Kinda left me in the limbo.
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twicknix wrote:There is a guy at the caravan servicing place who does it for years and is not corgi or gas safe registered.
I wonder how may folks have died of carbon monoxide poisoning in a caravan that idiot has “serviced” and what of the “caravan servicing place” who’s checking them? I think you have a duty to report this in all honesty…..CHRIST ALMIGHTY…the stuff that’s posted on UKW these days….!!! 🙁
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OMG.
Really, not only is his actions OMG……….but also your response……….really, l mean really.
I’m holding back as l’m absolutely flabagasted.
You know not to leave your bbq inside as well.
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I did some digging, in fact there is a website says…
http://cito.org.uk/engineers/gas/acops-5-day.html
Gas Safe is not required on tourers and motorhome as long the unit is not hired out as a business. Kinda a bit like us, competency is the word, as long you are competence on doing the work and work within the law and guidelines then you should be ok. It is good practice to be Gas safe registered or at least get a certificate from CITO.
I knew I was nearly right on my hunch about the law being unclear on gas safety when it comes to caravans. I would not compromise on safety as I have two little boys so just don’t take it face value and unleash your barrage of opinions. You are right to point it out but sometimes it good to take a step back and investigate why a lot of caravan servicing people are not gas safe registered. Some like to advertise it as it looks good but not a requirement just good practice.
A bit like Ken says on other thread many times that it costs too much money to do the course for Gas Safe for something so small and thus killing off the caravan business. Like I said it is off topic.
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if he is doing it for profit he needs to be gas safe with the lpg module and the LAV module and the modules for all the appliances he is checking. I know as I have just sat that test and completed for the second time yesterday.
Bob.
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twicknix wrote:I knew I was nearly right on my hunch about the law being unclear on gas safety when it comes to caravans.
I suspect you are very wrong TBH. How come by law you need to be Gas Safe registered for fixing appliances on boats? Are caravans deemed safer? I don’t think so. I think the law is clear, but am checking on that right now and will get back to you on this. 😀
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FFS.
The internet is not a reliable source of information.
If you want to know anything about this contact Gas Safe.
Attached is my cert just too prove l kinda know a few things.
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What lee8 showed looks like to me that it is for conversion from natural gas to LPG. Hence the wording “Changeover”. Different thing, I think. I am keen to hear from Martin on what he found.
As for BobHope – is this law or guidelines?
All I am saying is that there are so many of Caravan servicing people out there who are not registered as Gas Safe and still do carry out the work. They must be working to a different certification body. I guess that Gas Safe is the big player and would like to dominate the gas repair market but if there are other certification bodies that allow LPG work without being subjected to Gas Safe registration, how can Gas Safe let them do it knowing full well that there are other certification bodies that allows people to operate LPG?
Unless someone can come back to me with specific wordings from Gas Safe rules rather certificate, that you have to be gas safe registered to work on LPG on Caravans and Motorhomes. All I am asking for proof and links not rants.
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you have to be gas safe if the LAV or RPH or boat is hired out, if only the owner uses it then the landlords gas safety certificate is not required, as for the course that you linked to suggests there is another body that side stepped the gas safe regs, and is for servicing only so he is not able to issue a landlord certificate. I was not aware of that and do apologise for any confusion.
Bob.
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“Change over” relates to the NG qualifications held by me prior to doing the LPG, being an experienced gas engineer l was not required to do the full lpg course. Had l only needed LPG and no prior gas experience then l would have a different course and code.
I’m not ranting by the way.
The law is obvious, clear on the HSE, Gas Safe register and the caravan club web sites, the confusion comes by people’s interpretation of what is required.
Advice is free, what you do with it can cost a great deal.;-)
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http://www.hse.gov.uk/foi/internalops/o … 440_34.htm
K.
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