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Re: Oi, stop it!
kheath wrote:Just to clear a point Sean……Mark has spoken to me about what is going off with Electrolux……therefore its no secret. He explained to me in detail how it will supply the funds dasa needs, please do not blame admin when all electrolux agents are aware also….it is no secret.
Kevin.
I have to admit that I was not present at the dasa meeting where this approach was discussed and if you say that MARK has personally informed you of it and was quite happy for it to be used for public consumption on UKW. Then I have no option but to take your word for it.
In the interest of fairplay do you think that we can let DASA try to get through this period of reconstruction and reorganisation before it get’s torn to shreds again. Give them a chance to turn it around.
Sean
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hi sean,
Please be clear, Mark gave no permissions, and this was out before Mark and I spoke.
And as for giving Dasa a chance……..
Please ask the question?
Was Oldtogs post an official one from Dasa in his new role of Press Officer, because I don’t see many Dasa agents distancing themselves from his comments.Kevin
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Kev,
I think you will find that nowhere in Dave’s post did he refere to himself as the press officer for DASA or for that matter that he was expounding the official views of DASA.
The comments he made were entirely his own, for which he appologised in a later post. It’s a shame that you could’nt have been a little more magnanimous when he offered it, as I see that even ken had to pull you up on your later comment.You then ask me to make it clear that Mark gave no such permissions. As I was not privvy to your conversation I’m affraid that I can’t. Perhaps you should have made that point a little more clear in your earlier post.
Sean
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hi sean,
Have not asked you make anything clear????? Re read it, I am making it clear to you that Mark gave no permissions.Kevin
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kheath wrote:admin when all electrolux agents are aware also….it is no secret.
Kevin.
Kevin this is/was not known to all Electrolux agents , it is to be presented at a national seminar on the 18 th of this month. That is why I have had to ring Steve Clarke and apologise for the ‘cat been let out of the bag ‘.
Which IMO also makes us look like a bunch of tounge wagging washer women.So maybe now some will realise why I was severly pissed off with the situation, especially when I was building up a very good dialogue and relationship with the bloke.
Philip
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Flipper wrote:
kheath wrote:
admin when all electrolux agents are aware also….it is no secret.
Kevin.Kevin this is/was not known to all Electrolux agents , it is to be presented at a national seminar on the 18 th of this month. That is why I have had to ring Steve Clarke and apologise for the ‘cat been let out of the bag ‘.
Which IMO also makes us look like a bunch of tounge wagging washer women.
So maybe now some will realise why I was severly pissed off with the situation, especially when I was building up a very good dialogue and relationship with the bloke.
PhilipI didn’t know about it either, until I read it in here, & I usually find out about things before they even happen. As Phil says Steve Clarke was going to present it at a National meeting 18th November. Steve tells me he has to mention it as it is now in the public domain & he will still do a presentation of sorts, not doubt his enthusiasm has been blighted though.
I’m sorry to say this, but I suspect some of the credibility of this site may have become tarnished due to this.
Why doesn’t everyone just keep their heads down and see what happens? At this stage it seemed it was only a proposal & it would have to go a long way before it would be a reality.
Alex
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WTF!
Look it was a glib comment or two, that was it! It was taken to heart as being too close to the bone and the result is we’re at each other’s throats, great result that is.
Why don’t we all just chill out a little on this. The whole thing was spawned from what is now obviously a partial bit of the story being voiced in some camps and not reported on fully. Probably dropped in conversation, picked up and ran with as the “scoop” and no doubt as it was a “DASA fights with itself” thing was zealously pursued. I mean, let’s face it, there isn’t exactly a shortage of people that like to slag DASA off given half a chance, any one of them getting a hold of something like that could have a field day.
You also have to bear in mind that to a degree you have a “hawks & doves” type situation within DASA, some pro the new DASA, most of them in here and the old guard that believes in a lot of that which Chris put in place as well as the rhetoric that went with it. So there are those that may well have thought that the story getting out would have served their own agenda within DASA. That’s what happens when you start playing politics.
Word gets back to Kev, along with several other stories and the whole lot gets rattled up in one go. I’m sure Merloni is pissed off as well at the snippet about them too. I know that one WP was scurrying around after it trying to find out is someone was leaving them as well after that post, so it wasn’t just DASA that got a slap.
I stand by my original comment though, it should have been left alone, by gobbing off matters were only made worse as it was so cryptic unless you knew what was going off it didn’t really say that much. Cest la vie. 🙄
As to UKW being tarnished due this, maybe. But then you can’t always choose when it does and doesn’t suit you for information to be released or indeed if. Also as above, I’m sure there is a queue of people pissed off that some of their cats have been let out the bag over the past year. Thus far Lux and DASA have really come off pretty lightly all things considered, bar the odd mild poke now and then.
The best thing to do now is for us ALL to just leave it alone, let it fizzle out and hope that it just dies a death.
Now can we PLEASE talk about something else now, like the weather or the news or some bloody thing except friggin’ DASA?!! 😆
K.
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Alex wrote:I’m sorry to say this, but I suspect some of the credibility of this site may have become tarnished due to this.
…..Hear!…Hear!……too much gobbing off does no good whatsoever. I know each and everyone of you has a good, and in most cases, valid point to make, but as I commented earlier in this thread (perhaps a little bit of character for me I know but)……..
martin wrote:…its just like a load of kids fighting in a Junior School playground…. ….ffs….
The trade must me totally bemused by now from what they are reading 🙁
alex wrote:Why doesn’t everyone just keep their heads down and see what happens?
Yes lets!!!!!!!!
Martin
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I have always maintained that Dave, who doesn’t say much lets be fair, but when he does it’s fucking priceless!
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Martin
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I just though I’d lighten the mood a bit, but I posted that before I knew about the attack on Falluja being ordered this afternoon, so appologies if it’s a little tactless.
Dave.
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