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Re: Our Adrian
I wonder if the avatar image for Whirl 4 winds him up. (Welsh Flag)
He (Ade) is convinced Whirl-4 (Along with Ted & Rudolph) is Ken. I noticed the Taffy flag appeared as an avatar around the time he threw his toys out the pram.
I’m not responsible, but it is the sort of thing I would have done.
Is there a tree in the grounds of the hotel so a lynching can be organised?
Alex
Re: Our Adrian
I don’t think he’ll turn up TBH.
And, if Owain goes and he does, expect fur to fly on a number of levels and, of that reason alone, I don’t think he’d have the bottle to appear.
Of course I sent Whirl4 something and he copied/pasted it, with my bl00dy “K.” on it so our man Ade has assumed it is me. When I told W4 he put up the Welsh flag to wind him up.
K.
Re: Our Adrian
kwatt wrote:I don’t think he’ll turn up TBH.
And, if Owain goes and he does, expect fur to fly on a number of levels and, of that reason alone, I don’t think he’d have the bottle to appear.
I don’t know, he isn’t the sharpest knife in the drawer. He upset DASA when he stormed off the scene, then couldn’t understand why he was not welcome at a meeting when he was in full flow with the 0800 thing. He was subsequently invited to the service Seminar a bit later, but didn’t show.
kwatt wrote:Of course I sent Whirl4 something and he copied/pasted it, with my bl00dy “K.” on it so our man Ade has assumed it is me. When I told W4 he put up the Welsh flag to wind him up. K.
I thought so. W-4 needs to change it to the WRU one now though!
Re: Our Adrian
He pointed out the war room on Connect’s forum, and has done it again.
I was asked the other day what that was all about following the posting on Connect.
Trouble is if we delete the post as below, might make him worse.
Re: September 2012 engineers meeting
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by washdoctor » Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:52 pm
Alex wrote:
Oh don’t say that! There would be more people willing to shake your hand and offer you a pint than you might think.
AlexA new member for ‘The War Room’?
Anyways, back on topic so it doesn’t get deleted… I can’t wait to see you all again Ade
Re: Our Adrian
I shouldn’t worry, he wants his whole account deleted along with all posts which I have refused to do.
K.
Re: Our Adrian
Alex, you won’t know about this nor may others depending on moderator or WTA access…
He’s history, his account is completely disabled, he can’t even view the forums now due to recent abuse.
But to demonstrate the bullet that DASA just dodged he sent this message on 26 Feb in response to Lawrence asking about working more closely with DASA, which was I will add, pretty well received by all bar this…
Welsh Nutjob wrote:I say no.
The WTA haven’t evolved to share or spread the success with DASA.
I’m pretty much see what you get on the tin. So on that note…
Tell them to do one! As in fuck off! They were half the reason the WTA was formed?! Because they care shit about indies?!
So Steve Debeger has gone, they think they can work ‘With Us’? No fucking way.
We’ve worked hard to get 170+ People in to a room, the WTA is growing because of what we’re doing, DASA now see it and want a chunk?? Two words… FUCK OFF!
Where were DASA when we sat at that table in Sibson Years ago?
Keep the focus Lawrence 🙂
Then not three months later he does a complete 180? on his feelings towards DASA. Somehow, I don’t think so.
K.
Re: Our Adrian
Copied across from the WTA and Mod forums….
This message will be posted to the mods forum as well, others if I feel it is required, including the general forum if things kick off.
Adrian Welke has been completely banned from this forum and, other than spammers, he is the only person bar Tony Clifton to ever achieve that accolade.
I will explain why I felt this action was necessary.
He has constantly posted confrontational material usual in the form of personal attack on one of more members, myself and Lawrence seemingly the most common targets.
He has been repeatedly warned and chosen to ignore those warnings about this.
He has sent offline abusive and threatening messages to forum members and WTA members. This is completely unacceptable behaviour from anyone and I view this as a gross violation of both the UKW and WTA communities.
He has, without foundation, accused members of acting improperly and chosen to air those accusations in public, without evidence and without any foundation. When challenged, no evidence of wrongdoing can be provided.
He has consistently lied and changed his stories, many of them.
He posted spam messages on the website under his “washdoctor” monicker and refused to give a suitable change to that in order to lock down the account, insisting that all his posts should be removed. Removal of the posts was refused as it would have caused disruption to the forums and would have meant that threads could potentially have made little sense.
The username was changed to “AdrianWelke” and the user account banned from carrying out any posts or viewing the forums.
He subsequently signed up under the “washdoctor” monicker once more using the email address of adrian@beechappliances.co.uk and posted spam messages, these were deleted and the account banned.
On these grounds, Adrian Welke has been banned from UKW and, as the owner of the UK Whitegoods business it has been my decision in light of this overwhelming volume of improper conduct that the only course of action appropriate was to ban the user from the website completely.
Business & Domain Bans
appliancecarewales.co.uk
This domain has been banned from registering any user accounts on UK Whitegoods as it is Adrian Welke’s primary business internet domain.
This company has seemingly entered liquidation and been reborn with a slight name change.
For these reasons, this domain name has been banned.
beechappliances.co.uk
Company is no longer trading and is therefore not a valid business.
There is also some evidence to indicate that this business was improperly closed down.
Also there were unpaid invoices to UK Whitegoods Limited from this company.
For these reasons this domain name is banned.
findmyengineer.co.uk
Adrian Welke owns this business and operates the website.
The domain is improperly listed with Nominet, the owner has chose to opt out of the Who Is register which, as a business is a breach of Nominet’s rules for domain registration.
Adrian Welke’s own company is listed on this website as a full member despite not being a member of a trade association which is reputed to be the main criteria for holding a listing on the site. In other words, he has breached his own company policies.
When challenged on his motives with this business Mr Welke chose to remove all reference of it from UKW which led to his removal of moderator status as posts were deleted improperly and without authorisation. Logs of these events have been stored and the moderator team decided unanimously that he should be removed.
The website, as part of its sign up procedure, requires that members fill in a Direct Debit mandate for payment to be taken after the trial period expires. We do not feel that this is best practice.
For these reasons, this domain name has been banned and UK Whitegoods will not in any way endorse or promote this website to members.
Kenneth Watt
Re: Our Adrian
And, he’s back!
Below is the latest exchange from him which you can make your own mind up on the tone. Read from the bottom up as I couldn’t be bothered to split it up.
The way I see regards the meeting is thus…
If I go, he gets his platform to cause trouble, possibly becoming violent in the process and he ruins the day for everyone and, in any event we’d all be living in expectation of trouble happening.
The other option is I forsake going to the meeting, which I really didn’t want to do as there’s a couple of things I wanted to launch but, heh ho, that’s life. But, he doesn’t get a chance to bump his gums or cause trouble.
I don’t want to give him the time in the spotlight that he so obviously craves.
I do want to starve him of oxygen in the hope the fire dies and he moves on to some other crusade.
K.
Please put the following in your ‘Public Statement’ and I look forward to receiving it……!
WTA Meetings to my knowledge are open to all trade members. Therefore I will attend, especially as invited by other WTA Members as a non member to see what the WTA are doing for my industry. I will also take the opportunity to see, in person, those that have ‘Banished’ me from my own Trade Association, that I put a lot of faith, effort & care in to, over arguments with someone not even on it’s council!!!! I will also take the opportunity to see you & Lawrence Carey to question why you chose to embarrass me in your forums and also why you chose to issue a statement (About the constitution change) that is a blatant lie. I also want to attend to suss out the WTA in its current state to see whether it is worth my son joining when he starts officially as a Sole Trader.
It’s a shame you’re not going to attend Kenneth, after all, if you’ve done nothing wrong, why hide…?! Looks to me like you’re going to hide away, blame it on my attendance, when in reality, it’s because deep down, you know you’ve acted wrongly, have caused embarrassment to an old friend and you can’t bare to look me in the face while continuing your attack on my character. You cannot behave as you have, treat people like you have and not be able to stand your ground face to face. I think the words ‘Keyboard Warrior’ come to mind! It should worry you Ken, that even people that are sat in your building daily, have emailed me from their personal email addresses as they wanted to maintain a relationship, but not use your domains (See attached example).
I will not reply to you again, as I said earlier, my correspondence was to Carl, not you directly. I cc’d you in (NOT expecting a reply) out of courtesy as the websites we’ve been working on will be going live next week.
Ade.
From: Ken Watt
Date: Thursday, 2 August 2012 07:43
To: Adrian WelkeSubject: Re: Websites
Again, I wish no contact with you in any form and I will not attend any venue in which you are present.
I will not be attending the meeting as things stand and I have made it clear to all now that I will not be attending the meeting in September under the circumstances nor will any other UK Whitegoods employee be allowed to attend. The same protocol will be instigated for all future events.
I will issue a public statement on the reasons as to why should the need arise.
Do not contact me again please for any reason as I have no interest in who you email or why.
K.
On 2 Aug 2012, at 09:34, Adrian Welke wrote:
My email was to Carl…! I cc’d you in out of courtesy…!
Regarding the meeting, I have been invited! A few other guests have said that they’d like me to go, one in particular sent me an invite via TXT Message…! So I said would, as I can then see people I regard as friends and also take the opportunity to speak to you & Lawrence face to face (You know, after the way you have publicly humiliated me and made things read online how you wanted them to read).
The thing is Ken, you can beat me with words and publicly in your forum. But… You can do nothing but admit you & Lawrence lied about the change of Constitution and other things face to face. (Well, you both could lie to my face, but I doubt you’d do that).
Ade.
From: Ken Watt
Date: Thursday, 2 August 2012 04:37
To: Adrian WelkeSubject: Re: Websites
Please, again, stop emailing or making any contact with me. It is unwanted and has been for some time.
The meeting in September, I was not aware that you were invited and since it is open to UKW, WTA and DASA members only and you are a member of none I cannot see that you would be in a position to attend.
However, given the obvious veiled threat to be there purely to illicit a confrontation I will, like others, opt not to attend the meeting as I would not wish my presence to spoil the event for others attending.
K.
On 2 Aug 2012, at 01:56, Adrian Welke wrote:
By the way, I’m one of 7 people that have collaborated against my severe treatment by you, my friend! My instant exclusion from the WTA Forums, my exclusion from your forums have only shown some, that there isn’t smoke without fire, regardless what’s said on UKW!
The September meeting will be interesting! As we get to be face to face.
7 People could create a new TA… Be careful Mr Watt… Stick to your roots as from what I’m told, you’re turning in to a manipulative, self conscious mother fucker!
Georges words, not mine!
I’ll see you in September.
Ade 🙂
From: Ken Watt
Date: Wednesday, 1 August 2012 23:28
To: Adrian WelkeSubject: Re: Websites
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passing_off
Learn before you leap.
K.
On 2 Aug 2012, at 01:27, Adrian Welke wrote:
Out of ‘Courtesy’ I included you in the email. Any UK-Whitegoods Website launched is not intended to harm you or your companies interests in any way.
They are purely being launched to offer the consumer / Trade something different.
Kind Regards,
Adrian Welke
UK-Whitegoods.co.ukFrom: Ken Watt
Date: Wednesday, 1 August 2012 23:18Subject: Re: Websites
I have no idea why I have received this unwanted communication and hold little interest in the domains registered by others unless they are purposely intended to cause harm to my or my company’s interests in any way.
Regards
Kenneth Watt
kwatt@ukwhitegoods.co.ukUnit 5/6, Bonnyton Industrial Estate
Kilmarnock
KA1 2NP
Phone: 0845 172 8001
Spare parts enquiries: 0845 172 8002
Fax: 0845 172 8003Please don’t print this e-mail unless you really need to.
On 2 Aug 2012, at 00:58, Adrian Welke wrote:
Hi Carl,
I thought I’d drop you an email as I’m in the process of assigning websites to domain names and they’ll soon come to your attention for legal advice (No doubt).
To clarify (In advance), we’re launching the following websites:
http://www.uk-whitegoods.co.uk
http://www.ukwhitegoodsforum.co.uk
http://www.ukwhitegoodsservice.co.ukNo doubt you’ll be contacted with regards to copyright and any other issue that the owner of another similar site may feel he be obliged to air when these sites go live.
Can I assure you in advance, although similarly named, they serve individual purposes and will not copy or resemble Mr Watts ‘UK Whitegoods’ website.
The purpose for the launches are these:
uk-whitegoods:
A General website for consumers to read blogs and general advice that’s freely available on the internet, but collated in one place. No store, forums or Engineer Finder will be present. This website is simply, blogs with some outgoing links!
ukwhitegoodsforum:
This is a one page website whilst we build the site, that is temporarily re-directed to Talk Appliance, which is a free to join forum with various topics for both consumer & Tradesperson.
ukwhitegoodsservice:
This will be a website designed to promote Appliance Repairers in the UK. Nothing more, nothing less.
Regards,
Ade.
P.S Looking forward to meeting you in September, I owe you a pint 🙂
The email referred to in the top message is from Anne Oldfield, personal email address which is below. As you can see, doesn’t quite tally saying what he thinks it does.
Re: Our Adrian
Bloke’s a nutter
Just tried out his three new web-sites, and as yet not registered.
What I don’t get is, why did he tell you before actually registering the sites himself? There again he is an idiot!
Perhaps an idea to add them ourselves as a precautionary measure, and to piss him off.
Alex
Re: Our Adrian
He’s trying to annoy me I think by registering them.
He also registered the .com extensions as well. Whether or not he actually does anything with them, well, we’ll see.
K.
Re: Our Adrian
kwatt wrote:He’s trying to annoy me I think by registering them.
He also registered the .com extensions as well. Whether or not he actually does anything with them, well, we’ll see.
K.
Easy to see what he is attempting to do, my point is if he hasn’t actually gotten round to it, perhaps an idea if someone beats him to it and take up these domain names before he does?
Or has he actually done it, and the links are not up to date as they still appear to be unassigned.
Alex
Re: Our Adrian
Oh he’s registered them all….
Domain name:
uk-whitegoods.co.ukRegistrant:
Adrian WelkeRegistrant type:
UK IndividualRegistrant’s address:
69 Longacre
Bridgend
Bridgend
CF31 2DD
United KingdomRegistrar:
Webfusion Ltd t/a 123-reg [Tag = 123-REG]
URL: http://www.123-reg.co.ukRelevant dates:
Registered on: 01-Aug-2012
Expiry date: 01-Aug-2013
Last updated: 01-Aug-2012Registration status:
Registered until expiry date.Name servers:
ns.123-reg.co.uk
ns2.123-reg.co.ukK.
Re: Our Adrian
He sent me an e-mail where he complained about his title change on UKW (Among other things) and where posts that were not attributed to him, now appear that way. Meaning “It wasn’t me Guv, It was Washdoctor”! I suppose he could say “A big naughty boy done it and ran away”
He must be Schizophrenic.
Just out of interest, why was he changed from Adrian Whelke to Adrian CF under the Fozzy Bear avatar?
I get why he was changed from Washdoctor to Wadrian Whelke, but cannot work out the CF. Unless it was C**t Features!
Alex
Re: Our Adrian
Fozzie is the avatar for the banned users. The only other one that has it is our pal Tony Clifton as, he just happens to be the other muppet that needed banned.
AdrianCF was a change ti me making it AdrianWelke. Adrian, CF postcodes is how it was derived.
None of his posts have been altered. No posts have been attributed to his account with good reason, because it isn’t possible to do that!
K.
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