oven overheating

[slyp98]

hi guys this is just a general question about fan ovens , i have had reports from customers about fan ovens overheating and burning food in certain areas of the oven , a woman i talked to told me she has to constantly move the trays of buns to stop them burning on one corner amy have any info on this thanks

[Martin]

Re: oven overheating

Well the first and most obvious cause for anyone experiencing overheating and burning has got to be a faulty oven thermostat? So essentially the temperature needs checking in order to rule that possibility out. Beyond that it is essential in order for hot air to circulate evenly throughout the oven cavity it mustn’t be stuffed full of cakes and pastries on baking trays on every shelf restricting the air flow.

Also the wire shelves should not be covered in silver foil or empty baking trays sat on vacant shelves. As much clear space as possible is a must. Finally, for best baking and roasting results it is recommended to place in the very centre of the oven and avoid touching the back wall.

HTH? 😀

[slyp98]

Re: oven overheating

this woman is using her domestic oven to run a baking company its only small stuff but i’m nearly sure she is overloading the oven cavit y , i’m just gonna see how she loads the shelves and take it from there thanks for the reply martin

[gandh1]

Re: oven overheating

dont forget she might also have been missold the oven, just cos its got a fan in it, doesnt mean its a true fan oven, if its fan assisted most brands recommend only middle 3 shelves are used simultaneously as temps cannot be as easily controlled on top and bottom positions, and then it also affects the middle shelves too.

whats the make and model ?

[slyp98]

Re: oven overheating

its a hotpoint eg900x

[fasetester]

Re: oven overheating

gandh1 wrote:dont forget she might also have been missold the oven, just cos its got a fan in it, doesnt mean its a true fan oven, if its fan assisted most brands recommend only middle 3 shelves are used simultaneously as temps cannot be as easily controlled on top and bottom positions, and then it also affects the middle shelves too.

whats the make and model ?
what do you mean gandh1 just because it got a fan it doesnt mean it a fan oven.

what is the diff between a real fan oven and assisted fan oven and how can you tell thanks fasetester 🙂 🙂

[Martin]

Re: oven overheating

fasetester wrote:what is the diff between a real fan oven and assisted fan oven and how can you tell

I was thinking the same thing, I’ve never heard of a fan assisted oven TBH. 😕

A multifunction oven yes, but a conventionally heated oven with a fan in it, no! Can you specify a make & model gandh1? 🙂

[gandh1]

Re: oven overheating

theres loads!

fagors used to be fan assisted, lower spec amicas are, diplomats, moffats etc

basically, back in the day, before circular fan elements, fan ovens were “turbo ovens” where a conventional oven would be fan assisted. iirc aEG WERE one of the forebearers of the technology

nowadays its been hijacked by the kitchen all-in-one companys and the multiples. who want something cheap by sounds flash.

. obviously theres static – which is conventional and no fan, fan assisted, and circular fan ovens. multifunction is merely a combination of fan assisted and circular fan ovens. theory is this, you can get away with claiming a fan assist oven is a fan oven, because it contains a fan, but it affects the way food cooks twofold (bit like free yard eggs, where chickens are housed in barns with gaps/holes in the roof :))

static ovens – heat from one section of dual circuit top element and bottom element, so heat rises, hotter at top of cavity

fan assisted, heat still generated by top and bottom elements, but fan circulates air in caVITY In order to even out the temperature. no gain in pre heating, but slightly faster cooking and more even cooking, when using only middle shelves 🙂

true fan oven, where the element is a ring element around the fan and therefore the fan is blowing identical temp air around the cavity, with little variance of temp regardless of position, obv design plays a part in this, so some true fan ovens are better than others, neff zanussi and hotpoints tend to be the best of the mainstream…

fan assisted is coming back more now tho, with the resurgence in value added kitchens, whereby a bargain oven is included in the overall price, it was common moffats, diplomats, smeg, technik etc would all be despecced versions from source manudfacturers models. get me? the upshot of this is also that should the top dual circuit element fail, cos its essentially 2 elements in one, you can get away with twice the normal cost of a ring element 🙂

indesit is prime example. the b&q and multiple favourite is a fie36k. this is a dual circuit + base element with electronic timer. the fi31kb which is more diversely available is a ring element & top single circuit grill, with minute minder pinger. these are far more economical to keep going and cook a lot better ye are a smidge more expensive trade 🙂

[fasetester]

Re: oven overheating

thanks gadh1 for your reply. how can you tell by looking at a oven which is a fan oven. and which is fan assisted oven.

is both fans in the back.fasetester 🙂

[gandh1]

Re: oven overheating

if selling a model ive never stocked before, i tend to check the parts on connect for price and availability first.

general rule of thumb with non-multifunction ovens, is if theres a dual circuit grill, itll be fan assisted, true fan ovens only require a single circuit grill. obviously if the oven is a proper multifunction oven it will operate as a static conventional or true fan. the other option is to whip out the back inner panel if possible and see. yes ive only ever come across fans on back wall. not necessarily central tho.

[fasetester]

Re: oven overheating

thanks for your reply gandh1 does the grill not be in the small oven at the top.iam talking about free standing cooker.

you are talking about under oven with sep hob.fasetester

[gandh1]

Re: oven overheating

aha well the topic was based oin single ovens, so wrongly assumed you were asking about single ovens too!

freestanding cookers:

single oven, twin cavity (aka single ovens with sep grill), or double ovens.

usually most twin cav and dbl oven cookers main ovens with fans will be true fan ovens, because they then only need to fit one element, whereas for a fan assisted you need a top and bottom element. ok?

some single ovens, with fans, are fan assisted – because the main cavity is also goinh to be used as a grill, which is why its cheaper to built it with a dual circuit grill.

only time you tend to get grills in hte main ovens of a double oven now, are built in multifinction doubles, and i cant think of one now on the market where the main oven is only fan assisted 🙂

HTH

[Martin]

Re: oven overheating

Martin wrote:A multifunction oven yes, but a conventionally heated oven with a fan in it, no! Can you specify a make & model gandh1?

gandh1 wrote:only time you tend to get grills in hte main ovens of a double oven now, are built in multifinction doubles, and i cant think of one now on the market where the main oven is only fan assisted 🙂

I rest my case.:wink:

[gandh1]

Re: oven overheating

Martin wrote:

Martin wrote:
A multifunction oven yes, but a conventionally heated oven with a fan in it, no! Can you specify a make & model gandh1?

gandh1 wrote:only time you tend to get grills in hte main ovens of a double oven now, are built in multifinction doubles, and i cant think of one now on the market where the main oven is only fan assisted 🙂

I rest my case.:wink:

you devil martin, your still referring to the eg900x arent you 😮

i might have made a cock up not seeing that and still believing we were talking about single ovens. same rule applies tho as the eg900 had a multifuntion main oven that could operate as conventional, meaning highest and lowest shelves were a no no for even cooking 🙂

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