Part P effect?

[clivejameson]

Yesterday I visited a dishwasher repair and found the double pole supply switch for it didn’t work….

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y27/cl … 1Small.jpg

As you can see from the photo the earth supply had been connected to the live outlet on the switch causing the fuse to blow on day one, but just as worryingly, the appliance had been piggybacked onto the live and neutral supply which meant the only protection on the appliance was the ancient 30 amp fuse at the consumer unit :zap:

This installation was ‘created’ by a jobbing builder who recently built a kitchen extension to the house by extending the circuit from an existing double socket….all in line with Part P????

P.S. Feel free to put it into the ‘horror’ galleries Dave 😆

[Dave_Conway]

Re: Part P effect?

clivejameson wrote:P.S. Feel free to put it into the ‘horror’ galleries Dave 😆

Done

😯

[Phidom]

Re: Part P effect?

Part P will not deter the cowboys but some highly experienced, fully qualified tradesmen are forced to either give up or operate illegally. This is due to the high cost of joining an approved trade association. If you are semi-retired or doing sparky work as a small part of another trade e.g. kitchen fitting, the costs involved with Part P are prohibitive.

[johnnyj]

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i’ve been getting approx 3 to 4 calls a week when carrying out loop impedance/ resistance testing with varying faults ie no earth, reversed polarity etc, most of them were in council property’s it i was pixxed of at first another test i had to carry out, no complaints now.

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[Phidom]

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I’m tearing my hair out trying to find out if Part P has been introduced in Scotland. Someone told me it came in here on April 1st but I’ve just looked on several government/council websites and can’t find anything about it. I think lots of people here think it is in force because they tell me they are no longer allowed to do their own wiring work.

[Kenny]

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Try this link

http://www.diydoctor.org.uk/projects/partp.htm

In perticular

NOTE: This legislation does not apply in Scotland

All electrical work should be coverd by the “Building warrent”

[Kenny]

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Phildom

Just want to confirm that I was right in saying that “Part P” is not relevent in Scotland nor it seams is it relevent in Northen Ireland.

http://electrical-contractor.net/ubb/Forum9/HTML/000983.html

[Phidom]

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Thanks Kenny. I have been trying to find something more official, these sort of advice/forum things could be regarded as heresay. I am still doing wiring work at the moment but I’m not sure if I am still allowed to sign the electrics certificate for Building Warrants. I signed such a document a couple of months ago for a new house I wired but the builder has been told that future warrants will be more restrictive regarding who can and cannot sign these certificates. Clearly a lot of people up here have heard about Part P and assume they are no longer allowed to do their own wiring work as I am getting a lot more enquiries for such work.

[Kenny]

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Phildom
After a bit of searching I found this.

http://www.communities.gov.uk/pub/908/NewrulesforelectricalsafetyinthehomePDF244Kb_id1130908.pdf

Which clearly states “England and Wales”

I got there from here http://www.communities.gov.uk/index.asp?id=1130906

I hear what you say about info from forums. As for the certificates so long as you actualy do the tests required and record them properly their is no problems with you doing these.

[Tinhips]

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Reference Scotland and part “P”

As it is in England and Wales, Scotland does not Apply it.

BUT new regulations came into force in May 2005 regarding Electrical installations in Buildings.

Information can be found on:-
http://www.sbsa.gov.uk or on the NICEIC website http://www.niceic.org.uk

[Phidom]

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Thanks for that, Tinhips. This confirms what I suspected, I can’t now sign off the certificates unless I subscribe to an approved organisation and pay megga bucks for the privilege.

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