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August 22, 2007 at 12:16 pm #29976
kladave
Participantjust repaired a vacuum cleaner from a school and then did pat test,all ok except it has the old style unsleeved pins on the plug am i right in saying this has to be changed,well put it this way it’s going to get changed 😮
August 22, 2007 at 3:17 pm #225387bazza500
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You`re right! Unsleeved pins on a plug would be a fail.
August 22, 2007 at 3:33 pm #225388kladave
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cheers bazza
do you know the strange thing is,that these so called pat test companies have passed this vacuum for the last THREE years one even put their passed sticker on the plug itself dated march 2005 :rolls:
August 22, 2007 at 3:59 pm #225389bazza500
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yep, we have a so called “know it all” who does the school stuff and fails them for stupid reasons like them being dirty but passes everything with a 13amp fuse in the plug! :rolls:
September 5, 2007 at 6:43 pm #225390franz
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plugs with unsleeved pins are not an automatic fail. The legislation is not retrospective and therefore if the plug is otherwise sound, i.e no cracks then it is legal but it could not be transferred to a new mains lead or another appliance as this would contravene the regs – I have just done the C&G 2377 pat testing course and this was one of the questions raised
September 5, 2007 at 7:14 pm #225391mbdas
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That was one of my questions too unless the plug is damaged in anyway it is not a automatic fail some of the old plugs do have weak cable grips and wont tighten up so if you give it a good pull and the cable comes out then you can fail it and then replace it 🙂
September 5, 2007 at 9:31 pm #225392deltra
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anybody know where does pat training ❓ and do the c&g2377 at end of course 😕
September 6, 2007 at 8:38 am #225393kladave
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franz wrote:plugs with unsleeved pins are not an automatic fail. The legislation is not retrospective and therefore if the plug is otherwise sound, i.e no cracks then it is legal but it could not be transferred to a new mains lead or another appliance as this would contravene the regs – I have just done the C&G 2377 pat testing course and this was one of the questions raised
thanks for the update franz,in my case the vacuum had the old unsleeved pins but was fitted to a machine that would have come with sleeved pins.September 8, 2007 at 8:26 pm #225394maltheviking
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45p for a plug, change it.
September 8, 2007 at 9:49 pm #225395richardable
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did my pat course at night school run by the local education authority.
c&g at the end…passed 😀 look in local press or contact local college.
richardSeptember 8, 2007 at 10:01 pm #225396franz
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45p for a plug is not the point – if you are doing pat testing you’ve got to know the job.
September 9, 2007 at 12:32 am #225397bazza500
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so how do you know when the unsleeved plug was fitted?
When I did my course way back, we were told that unsleeved plugs were fine but that the best way is to change them for the sake of 45p and keep yourself right. If someone gets electrocuted and they blame it on an unsleeved plug and you passed the appliance then how do you prove the plug was fitted before the regulations were brought in?
I`ll tell you…. You can`t!
So just because you`ve done a course on PAT testing doesn`t mean you know it all. Common sense has a part in it as it does in all aspects of life.
Change the plug for a sleeved pin plug and that`s it then you have nothing to lose.
September 11, 2007 at 11:26 am #225398franz
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The point I was trying to make was that you can’t criticise other peoples work (especially if they have not done anything wrong) if you don’t know the regs.
September 11, 2007 at 2:47 pm #225399mike1
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good point, well put.
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