pat test help

[AASWALES]

hi i have just got a automatic pat tester it also shows readings and i would like to no the min and max reading for pass on earth leak insulation etc thanks alan

[Phidom]

Re: pat test help

You really need to get yourself a copy of the IEE Code of Practice, ISBN:0-85296-776-4.

Insulation Resistance:
Class 1 over 3kW___ 0.3 megohm
Other Class 1 ___ 1.0 meg
Class 2 ___ 2.0 meg
Class 3 ___ 250 kilohm

Earth Continuity:
Resistance shall not exceed 0.1 ohm + resistance of mains flex earth conductor. Appliances with long flexes like Class 1 vacuum cleaners may show as a fail on the tester but you measure the cable length and calculate its resistance based on estimated CSA. For example 0.75mm cable has a resistance of 0.026 ohm per metre.

[AASWALES]

thanks for your help alan

[AASWALES]

Re: pat test help

hi lads i no this is prob a stupid question but how can u pat test a cooker when it has no pulg on the end ?

[superfix]

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If it has no plug then it aint portable.

As in Portable Appliance Test 😉

[admin]

Re: pat test help

Hi

AASWALES that is a silly question, considering that they are letting you loose on electrical appliances. Have you done a PAT testing course? If not then you should NOT be using equipement that you are not competent on.

I.E. PLUGGED APPLIANCE TEST = PAT

Bryan.

[superfix]

Re: pat test help

r600a wrote:
I.E. PLUGGED APPLIANCE TEST = PAT

Bryan.

Plugged now is it, t’was portable when I was a lad 😀

[admin]

Re: pat test help

Hi

If its got a plug then its classed as portable,If its hard wired then its not portable.Its the easy way to determine if it needs PAT test or not.

Bryan

[eastlmark]

Re: pat test help

Plug or no plug, still need to test earth connection though.

[Phidom]

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You could temporarily fit a plug on a cooker to do the test but obviously if you did a functional test you would have to make sure you didn’t have several elements on at once and exceed 13 amps.

[spanner51]

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I’ve seen domestic w/m’s hard wired, with a switch above the worktop, (as no dought you all have ) but I still test it for insulation.

All appliances should be tested, with or without a plug.

If without one, then test it from the terminal block.

It covers your own back, if nothing else.

[wilf]

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if it weighs more than 40kg and can be moved then techniaclly its “transportable” but dont ask me what difference this makes to any test

wilf

[Martin]

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r600a wrote:Have you done a PAT testing course?

That is the way forward Alan (AASWALES) to be honest. If you seriously wish to include PA Testing as part of your business strategy you need to show you’re qualified for the job. 😉

It’s a one day course, and there are several regular courses all over the UK at a cost to you of around £300 (ish?).

As Phidom say’s you need a copy of the IEE Code of Practice, ISBN:0-85296-776-4. (often included in the price) and away you go…….

http://www.iee.org/Events/Courses/Short/Elec//ptt_obj.pdf

[Phidom]

Re: pat test help

The course is actually a bit of a joke but I don’t know if anyone would let you take the exam without doing the course. There are a couple of practical bits where you do a formal visual inspection and a PAT test then its a multiple choice exam done at a PC with 30 questions. You are allowed to consult the Code of Practice in the exam 😆

[bagman]

Re: pat test help

Martin wrote:

It’s a one day course, and there are several regular courses all over the UK at a cost to you of around £300 (ish?).

That’s a bit steep. I did mine last year for £125, for another £35 they chucked in the management course as well. (I did both and they forgot to bill me for the management course, but no doubt they’ll get me when I do the 16/17th edition later.)

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