PAT TESTING Do you do it?

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I was just wondering……how many of you independant repairers PAT test your repairs if carried out in the customers homes…..do any employed repairers out there have to do it?….what appliances do you test???…we all know what the regs say but actually do you do it???? and if so is it just a simple insulation, earth continuity test….or full blown PAT tester jobbie!!!!how do you record it?….

Honest answers only please!!!!!!

Col

[Penguin45]

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http://www.ukwhitegoods.co.uk/modules.p … ic&t=16635

“Search” is a wonderful thing……… 😀
Chris.

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sorry I must be missing the point somewhere….and the threads are so long I cant find the answer to my question…..im not asking what qualifications I need more just trying to find out if anyone actually does test and to what extent????? I think its a good Idea to test cant argue with that….but a brief check locally amongst local repairs shows they dont…..but is that right?????its time and money at the end of the day””””

sorry if i missed something

regards col

[Penguin45]

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Hi Col (Colin?),
You don’t need a qualification to go PAT testing. Probably best if you have some training, as you will be able to produce a certificate of proficiency if any awkward questions get asked.

Cheers,
Chris.

[paulpaddison]

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i do pat testing with my appliance repairs. it helps when work is slow as i can get the odd nursing home or resturant to do. helps earn some money.
only problem is my equipment is due for calibration now 😥 there goes my christmas profits. but to pat test you do need to sit and pass the relevant college course could be evenings at a local college or a full day and then 2 exams at the end of the course. ( the course is all paperwork )
some places will lend you a pat tester to take home and learn with and some experiments in class to gain the experience.
“it is law that any appliance repaired must be pat tested”
(SO I WAS TOLD SO I WAS TOLD ON MY COLLEGE COURSE)

[johnmac11]

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paulpaddison wrote:“it is law that any appliance repaired must be pat tested”
(SO I WAS TOLD SO I WAS TOLD ON MY COLLEGE COURSE)

As far as I am aware there is no requirement for us to PAT test any appliance in domestic premises. If I am wrong 99{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} of members of this site are in deep goo 😆

John

[Martin]

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Indeed the regulations only apply to commercial premises to protect employees in the workplace. That includes hotels, pubs and guesthouses that provide electrical equipment for the use of their guests (i.e. Tea & coffee makers, hairdryers etc)….

“The Electricity at Work Regulations (1989) placed a Legal responsibility on employers, suppliers and hirers etc to take reasonable steps to ensure that no danger results from the use of electrical equipment. This means all Portable Appliances at your place of work have to be regularly tested to ensure they are safe.”

[paulpaddison]

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i was told both on my business traning course and my pat testing course that i must pat test anything i repair. problem with this is it means a lot of paperwork and extra fee for the customer. some repairs are so simple i dont pat test them like a washing machine door repair or replace or replacing a broken dial. a quick check with a multi meter from case to earth pin on plug makes shure its propely grounded. also checking from a screw on the side of a socket to a sink or pipe will show if the house earth is ok. ( or a plug in socket tester will do the job )

i did this test once after replacing a burnt terminal block on a dishwasher and found the socket had no earth. found a snapped earth wire in the fused spur feeding it. so hadto fix that too. worse thing is there was a strong smell of gas from the cooker next to me where i was working. customer said there due to have new fitted kitchen soon so they leave windows open for now 😯 scary people.

[maltheviking]

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paulpaddison wrote:i was told both on my business traning course and my pat testing course that i must pat test anything i repair. problem with this is it means a lot of paperwork and extra fee for the customer.

Why the extra paperwork and charge? 😕

Nothing personal Paul this is good advice for anyone, If you want to sleep at night then the minimum safety tests that should be carried out is at least earth continuity and earth insulation, I personally do earth loop impedance test’s as well, which has a 25 amp earth test, BUT this instrument can be unsafe if used incorrectly, always make sure that no one is in the shower or bath or any water when you test. If the house earth is poor then the 25amp may take a route of least potential, water pipes etc. 😳

All test equiptment should be regulary calibrated and given a suitable test certificate.

paulpaddison wrote:
some repairs are so simple i dont pat test them like a washing machine door repair or replace or replacing a broken dial. a quick check with a multi meter from case to earth pin on plug makes shure its propely grounded. also checking from a screw on the side of a socket to a sink or pipe will show if the house earth is ok. ( or a plug in socket tester will do the job )

A loose or poor earth will not show up with a multi meter

Even a “small repair” makes you the last person to touch the appliance, I am sure if the shit hit the fan after an “incident” no judge in the land would side with you.

Sorry to lay this on a bit heavy chaps but feel free to give an opposing arguement , anyway who said a washing machine is a portable appliance
Mal 😉

[paulpaddison]

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the extra paperwork is due to pat testing forms unless you have a barcoding pat tester and can save the records on a pc. 🙂 this is getting to be a very scary subject bit like that wholesaler who dident like my posts 😥

[paulpaddison]

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good point about the multimeter. back when i was a lad i used a mega that was great fun for shocking people too 😀 allways proved if earth was dodgy or not.

[paulpaddison]

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items that can be pat tested. portable appliances, movable or transportable equipment/appliances, hand-held appliances, stationary equipment/appliances, fixed appliances, appliances/equipment for building in, IT equipment and extension leads. 😀

[paulpaddison]

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Documentation:

Appliance Register, Fail Certificates (if applicable), Pass Certificates,
Display Certificate

Appliance Register – A complete register of all equipment tested on the premises
Fail Certificates – Appliances that failed testing will be reported on red paper showing details of the reason for fail and recommendations
Invoice
Pass Certificates – Full details of all test results for appliance that passed testing
Display Certificate – A Certificate for display in the staff room, notice board or reception to advise that the appliances on the premises have been tested for electrical safety.

[paulpaddison]

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i dident write last post just copied it off a website with some info. hope its usefull to some people 🙂
just out of intrest would anybody think pat testing would be a good sideline for work when appliance repairs goes quiet for me ?
i tried bt and telewest work but back to self employment now and need to find something to produce a regular income. still having no luck on the lottery 😳

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