Plastic paddles are ruining my life !!!!!

[joscott]

Hi, desperately need some advice regards how I can avoid buying yet another machine that is going to cause endless misery when it’s paddles decide to snap off.
Initially bought a Hotpoint which cost in excess of £400 which after 18 months I gave it up and bought a cheaper Whirlpool for around £250, when it arrived I could have cried when I excitedly opened the door to be faced with yet more plastic paddles!!
I knew it was only a matter of time, about 6 months to be exact before that familiar thud/clanking started to emerge from the utility room, I knew it was over!!
Which machine is going to work for me, I can’t take it anymore. Do I get the all singing all dancing IES 10 – but wait, it still has plastic paddles??
I’ve read the do’s and don’ts on what you should and shouldn’t do and I tried that, no coins etc but it still doesn’t work, this never happened in the old days…..

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Plastic paddles are ruining my life !!!!!

Hi

Do you by any chance wash your trainers ?.

Bryan

[kwatt]

Re: Plastic paddles are ruining my life !!!!!

joscott wrote:Which machine is going to work for me, I can’t take it anymore. Do I get the all singing all dancing IES 10 – but wait, it still has plastic paddles??

That, as spares, gather dust on a shelf as we’ve never ever dispatched a single one.

Cheap plastic does you no favours there at all but to have them removable by customers has advantages, like you can fish things out like coins and bra wires etc, that find their way in there. Saves you calling someone out or replacing the machine due to the damage or cost of removal of the offending items.

K.

[iadom]

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Because you are ruining the plastic paddles, or lifters yourself.

I cannot comment on the Whirlpool but I have a few (42) years of experience on Hotpoint washing machine repairs

Apart from the very first incarnation ( MK1) of the plastic drum lifters from around 8 to 10 years ago, they come adrift for two reasons 99{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} of the time and it is all down to user misuse. It is caused by either washing trainers or leaving coins in pockets. So you need to take stock of the way you use the machine first. 😉

I have hundreds, nay thousands of customers who have had these machines for many years and never had a single drum lifter changed, I have one customer who I change the lifters on every few months. At the same time I remove £15 to £20 or more from the sump. :eeek:

And I have the pictures to prove it.

Same customer, six months apart, first one had £23.53 and 1 euro in the sump. :rolls:

The irony of it is that his outer drum is still intact, some other poor, unlucky soul will get just a single coin in that will puncture the outer drum and wreck the machine in one fell swoop.

[joscott]

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Thanks for the comments/advice.

I think the best solution in my case is to pay the extra on a make that is reliable, after already shelling out nearly £700 on in my opinion sub standard machines.

I’ve read numerous post about paddles snapping off and to be honest, I just can’t believe in this day and age the odd coin here and there can cause so much grief.

I do check pockets and am on the whole careful, and no don’t put trainers in it. So who knows, maybe it’s just me (and thousands of others???).

I’ve had washing machines since I was 22, I’m now 39, I really don’t get why since buying a new machine 2 years ago and coincidental introduction of this plastic tat I’m having this problem – never ever had this type of problem previously.

Luckily I’m able to buy something that is going to be more reliable but as for the millions of others who can’t they will be swindled out of hundreds of pounds by manufacturers making cheap rubbish appliances.

As far as I can tell it’s all about the likes of Hotpoint saving £££ and the poor consumer is left to pay through the nose, like K said it’s cheap plastic and probably snaps at the whiff of a five pence piece/beach towel.

I wish I had invested in the first place is all I can say.

IES all the way……..

[QUICK FIX]

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i have worked on asko(euro) then ise for about 14 years and have never channged a broken paddle and the company i worked for sold alot to farmers and you can imagine the things that got washed in them

[joscott]

Re: Plastic paddles are ruining my life !!!!!

Thanks for latest post. I’m definitely sold on the ISE not IES as I called it – sorry!!

It sounds uber reliable and as quick fix says about farmers, too true, the odd foreign object is bound to get into the machine at some time and it’s up to the machine to be able to cope with it.

[iadom]

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joscott wrote: the odd foreign object is bound to get into the machine at some time and it’s up to the machine to be able to cope with it.

I beg to differ, it is for washing laundry and nothing else, all instruction books inform the user of the need to check all pockets etc and the guarantees are worded to that effect.

I had a Hotpoint with these paddles for over 10 years and never had one come adrift.

Even in the old days of vitreous enamel inner/outer drums leaving coins in did damage the drum. It wasn’t instant but the drums eventually rusted through where the enamel had been chipped off. 😥

The ‘odd foreign object’ will only get in if you put it in without checking properly, they are not ‘bound’ to get in.

Its much cheaper in the long run just to take a few seconds longer to check carefully before you throw the clothes in the drum. 🙂

[joscott]

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Thing is my hubby has checked and there is no sign of the dreaded coin, let’s face it, you get what you pay for, which in the likes of Hotpoints case – not a lot.

[iadom]

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I thought you had a Whirlpool now, ❓

You have been washing for 17 of your 39 years, I have been repairing them since three years before you were even born. :eeek: 😥

So you will have to believe me when I say that the main reason the lifters come off is due to coin damage.

You do get what you pay for and no mistake,under £300 buys you poor quality, £400 only gets you half decent machines, £800+ gets you a good appliance.

If you think about it, 25 years ago your average family car was 3 or 4 times less than it is today yet people think they can buy a washing machine today for the same price or even less than they paid 25 years ago and expect it to last. The only way that can be sold so cheap is by using cheaper materials and cheaper labour.

Its not just Hotpoint, its across the board.

[Martin]

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joscott wrote:which in the likes of Hotpoints case – not a lot.

Hear! Hear! to that sentiment. 😀

Hotpoints drum paddles are loose from new. Just try the ‘wiggle test’ on one in a showroom near you to realise that fact. Then when you get it home, stick in a full load if towels and one of those liquid detergent caps. Shut the door, turn on and as it tumbles away just listen to the racket…..

….by about washload no 4 one or two paddles will start to rattle like Phil Collins in full flow ‘in the air tonight’….rock on!!!!!

[iadom]

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The lifters on my WMA were never loose Martin, and never replaced, but of course it was a proper Hotpoint and not the Indesit made stuff of the last 7 or 8 years. :rolls:

[RocketMan]

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Just to throw my tuppence in….

Besides washing trainers and coin damage, what else can cause it?

What about the plastic breaking down? I know the problem is prevalent in dishwashers with the wheels regularly breaking down due to higher temperatures and stronger detergents.

However, I recently changed the paddles on a machine that had lost one but the other two were loose and after removing them, they definitely looked like the plastic had seen better days and looked like plastic that had been exposed to the elements.

Just wondering peoples thoughts???

Remember the Indesit machine that had a trainer wash programme? Thought that was easy work until I started getting the recals week after week.

[Martin]

Re: Re: Plastic paddles are ruining my life !!!!!

RocketMan wrote:Besides washing trainers and coin damage, what else can cause it?

The securing latches of each paddle/lifter are small and thin. Couple that with the extremely thin guage of the stainless drum that acts like a knife edge. Apply external stress forces from clothing beating against the plastic and the result is inevitable.

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