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May 29, 2012 at 12:27 pm #375619
Washman
ParticipantRe: Problem with ASKO 20003 washing machine (drain pump)
Hi
According to the original service manual I have that model 20003 came out in 1990. Original part no 8054178 control unit and was about £400.00
Washman
May 29, 2012 at 12:28 pm #375620kwatt
KeymasterRe: Problem with ASKO 20003 washing machine (drain pump)
No longer available I’m afraid. 🙁
Mind you, at 22 years old it’s done not bad for itself at all. 😉
K.
May 29, 2012 at 12:53 pm #375621Ali_baba
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Not done badly at all, and in fact it still works fine, but the only problem is that the drain pump runs constantly as soon as power is supplied to the machine due to the burnt out transistor. I’ll probably just wire in a switch to operate the drain pump manually unless anyone can suggest a repair or component to replace it with, since the machine is part of the family ..
I’ve asked the UK importers for Maytag/ASKO (who helpfully don’t let their engineers talk to clients ..) and am now hoping for a reply to mails sent to asko in the US and Sweden.
My fingers are crossed.May 29, 2012 at 1:08 pm #375622kwatt
KeymasterRe: Problem with ASKO 20003 washing machine (drain pump)
Asko is currently sold as ISE in the UK…
http://iseappliances.co.uk/index.php/pr … g-machines
You won’t find Whirlpool or Maytag to be much help, they were supposed to support the older products and to a degree did but it wasn’t as important to them as other things sadly.
But, at any rate, many of the guys that might have seen one of these machines are on here anyway and, if they could have helped, they would have.
One of the problems you face is that these machines don’t break very often, so there’s no need to carry loads of parts or have copious amounts of old information kicking about.
Don’t be a bit surprised if the UK enquiry gets routed back to me, they often do. 😉
Your only hope is that someone in Sweden has a note of the components that were used in the board but my effort to find out proved fruitless I’m afraid so, if it does get routed back here, we can’t offer a lot more help.
K.
May 29, 2012 at 1:19 pm #375623Ali_baba
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Well at least I asked the right people. Thx to all for your input, and if I do manage to get hold of a component layout diagram I’ll update this thread with the details.
Cheers
May 31, 2012 at 5:51 pm #375624cockney steve
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no, it’s frazzled….sometimes, if you get the light angled right, you will be able to see the printing “burned” onto the plastic…..if it’s exploded , you’ve had it.
A bit of research into semiconductors may tell you something..here’s where my knowledge goes thin…..Transistors/triacs/fet’s can all look the same, but work differently. mant spec’s overlap and often price is thecriterion for the manufacturer. You know the voltage (working) you know or can find the pump-current , but you need to know more than that to ascertain the type of device. I’d suggest an electronic circuit -board repairer,or electronic engineer would be a good start on Google……have you actually e-mailed Asko Tech. support? they may just be willing to tell you, you’ve nowt to lose!
June 1, 2012 at 10:02 am #375625Ali_baba
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Hi Cockney Steve,
Thx for the suggestions, I’ve had a couple of pcb surgeons have a look at it but they both drew a blank as they couldn’t read anything off the component itself. As you say the voltage is 240v and the current drawn by the drain pump is measurable so I will get an electronics text book or two out of the libabry and look into it in more depth (as the washing is starting to pile up !).
If anyone has any more suggestions or knowledge to impart along these lines I would be grateful.
Asko in Sweden have mailed me back (the yanks have not ..) but they sold the last spare board over a year ago. Peter, in their technical department has said that he will forward any details they find if a board comes back to them, but at this point I’m searching the internet for a 20003/4/5 machine or pcb board for sale or just to be able to look at the part.Cheers
June 1, 2012 at 2:46 pm #375626cockney steve
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A good electronics engineer would be able to ascertain the TYPE of component (triac/fet/mosfet/silicon transistor- from the surrounding circuit….as I see it, there’s going to be a large surge-current when the device switches the motor on, and a large voltage-spike when it switches out……check the board where the “legs” go in….B,E,C (or K) would indicate Base, Emitter , C (K) ollector…..-a transistor, whereas , i think, triacs have a “gate” instead of a base….sorry, i’m at the boundaries of my electronic knowledge. a semiconductor list with parameters and substitutes will take a bit of research on the net, as will tutorials.
An engineer who’se capable , MAY be reluctant to start delving, but once you explain that it’s worth , say, £50 to £100 for a repair, he’ll think it worthwhile, as he’s getting a realistic wage for his skills…that’s my experience , anyway.
NOTE. I’m neither an electronics, nor Whitegoods engineer.
browse the Whirlpool American-style Fridge thread in the appropriate sub forum (the one with around 60 pages 😯 ) there’s a lot of boffins posted on there and a P.M just MIGHT bear fruit.
June 6, 2012 at 8:49 pm #375627Ali_baba
ParticipantRe: Problem with ASKO 20003 washing machine (drain pump)
Update – I’ve found out what it is (An ST Microsystems Triac Z0410NE) but can’t find anyone who will sell me just one of them .. help !
June 6, 2012 at 10:08 pm #375628June 7, 2012 at 1:24 pm #375629Ali_baba
ParticipantRe: Problem with ASKO 20003 washing machine (drain pump)
62p for the part (and a mere £12 for the postage) ?
June 7, 2012 at 5:09 pm #375630cockney steve
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If in the UK , try RS componehts (rswwwdot com) or Possiblyeven Maplin, Farnell,cpc electronics (preston)
Some are trade-only, but if you locate a depot and go to the trade-counter with the correct stock number and cash, they MAY just do you a “courtesy-sale” pack-qty is shown on the website in all cases afaik.
June 7, 2012 at 5:41 pm #375631touran daddy
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Ali_baba wrote:62p for the part (and a mere £12 for the postage) ?
I understand what you are saying regarding the postage but isn’t 13 quid worth saving the machine for instead of paying out for a new one.
Is this really the time to worry about that? That’s a great cheap fix and sometimes we just have to take the pain, no?
RS is worth a shot as said above.June 7, 2012 at 6:46 pm #375632Ali_baba
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Thx for all the suggestions and as t.d. pointed out, it is much cheaper than a new machine .. ordered it now and will update when it’s all back together, hopefully with good news !
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