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Re: Scrap & Weee
Just checked on Environment agency website and it says you qualify for an exemption if you carry waste that you have produced.So this is maybe what they meant .If i take a motor off a washer ,is it then my waste
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waters wrote:If i take a motor off a washer ,is it then my waste
No. It is the customer’s waste as they no longer require it.
Basically, if you remove anything from a customer’s home, you need a waste license although you are unlikely to get grief about spares you would over machines if you were stopped.
K.
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When i take a washer away after delivering a new one, the customer askes if i want there old one to do up,take parts off ,etc.So if i take that machine to my premises to work on that is my machine,quite often the customer will not let me take one away unless i give something for it,and because i sell recons i sometimes get them back off a customer i had sold it to 5 years ago for 100 quid.They pay another 100 quid and get a tenner back
Waste is described as “any goods that the customer no longer requires” and according to DEFRA and the EA this includes machines that you remove under both circumstances described. In other words, you need a carriers license, end of story.
We did argue that if a car dealer buys a second hand car that that isn’t classed as waste so why should this be but it fell on deaf ears, they said that was different! :rolls:
K.
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Ok will get one anyway.Do you fill out a duty of care waste transfer note each time you collect a machine
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Waters (sorry don’t know your first name) If you look at it this way, it sort of makes sense. If you carry out a repair on a customers appliance the old part that you have replaced is still the property of the customer and the new part becomes their property once they pay you. Equally if you sell an appliance to a customer you are legally obligated to take away the old one (if the customer does not want it, its becomes waste and you need a waste carriers licence) unless the customer wants to keep the old one and signs a disclaimer to that effect. So say you sell 100 appliances, the Environment Agency will check that you have paperwork covering the numbers – say 70 old appliances that you sent for scrap (and have the weighbridge receipts) and 30 that the customers wanted to keep and you have 30 disclaimers. Its all in the papertrail. Regarding the duty of care certs – we don’t do them individualy we do a block when we dispose of a quantity. Hope that helps – if not I can let you have a copy of our consignment notes or if you are at the meeting on Friday look me up and I’ll show you the system. Ian.
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Cost will be covered by one trip ,we are getting £130 per tonne.Gave scrap to dealers for last 10 years but at this price been taking my own the last 6 months.
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I think John has gone through this before and he has mentioned to me that if you are carring machines on the van from customers to your workshop even if it is going to be scrap, and you are stopped with them on the van and you have no waste licence, you tell them its being transported for REPAIR to your workshop. How are they going to prove otherwise ❓
Steven
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When i get my licence and i take my washers to the scrap yard and get the paperwork how can i prove these were washing machines.The scrap reciept just says the weight and general scrap.So it is just my word that they were and how many.
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we have a licence to carry waste and a hazardous waste licence to store fluorescent tubes, batteries & refrigeration. a firm called Coopers Wholesale collects all our waste about once a month free of charge (exept refrigeration £9.50 per unit ), they then give us paperwork which shows what they have taken for recycling, 12 x washing machines, 10 x irons, etc etc. this covers you completely if the enviromental man comes snooping around. we also joined a takeback scheme so we dont actually have to take peoples weee if we dont want too.
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If we are getting rid of an old washer after selling Mrs Smith a nice new one are we still able to take it to a bog standard scrap yard or shouldn’t it be going to a specified, approved recycling facility under WEEE rules?
Phil
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By selling a new washing machine you are a producer of weee so you you are responsible of recycling it correctly. unless you join a contribution scheme, then you can refuse to take the waste.
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Distributor obligations only apply to new machines supplied not recons,also items returned for repair are not classed as weee unless they are beyond repair.
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I have now spent about 3 hours searching through government websites and am still no wiser. Can anyone please explain exactly how i go about getting a wast carriers license? A dummies guide would be appreciated.
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