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Toni wrote:Hi
I phoned the environment agency and they put an application in the post
08708 506 506 (Mon-Fri 8-6)
Cost about £140 for 3 years. after that you pay a smaller amount
Mind you I havn’t got round to filling it in yet 😥
Hope this helps
Toniremember doing that a good few years ago when these first came about….and because I didnt apply at the time they follow up called me to ask, in no uncetain terms, why I hadnt applied and for what reason.. Seems that just requesting a form was enough for them to put you on some sort of check list.
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I’ve passed this on to Neptune but the link if you need it is –
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Thaks guys for the help. My application is in the post. Does anyone actually used waste consignment notes when collecting scrap machines?
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Hi all, sorry to bring this subject up again! I am pulling my hair out looking through this lot.
Here are MY circumstances. After being made redndant back in July I have been buying raw appliances and Reconditioning them, Im doing ok at it so far to, its paying the bills at least.
However I have come across this post and Im worried! I buy raws from up north (via another poster on UKW) and also get the odd machine from our local tip and customers old machines that they are replacing with one of my recons. I work from my garage at home, adequate (just) whilst I am starting out.
Reading through this it seems I am going to need a waste carriers licence?
A nightmare and an expense I can ill afford right now, will I get one considering I am working from home?
Any scrap that I do have, I ring the local scrap man and he collects so I never have any lying around, again not good according to what I have read on here!
For me the only thing the Wee directive has done is to stop what would have been another landfil stat being RECYCLED and giving another couple of years use to those less fortunate than most, surely this is a government obsessed with recycling and against thereown principles?
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Jackster;
A waste carriers license cost £140 for three years. That shouldn’t break the bank.
Take your scrap to a local metal merchants, if you have one.
Keep all weighbridge tickets and bank any money paid to you into your business account.I think you’ll find that should keep your head above water.
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A waste carriers licence was basically what I was expecting to have to get, I havnt got aproblem with that but then I read about this weee thing and it knocked me for six to be honest.
Another quick Weee scenario then, I buy a dishwasher say off ebay, its somebodys waste isnt it? Hows that work?
All very frustrating!
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I was given a tip off by my scrap man that the licenses are limited, so even if you pay your £140 you aren’t guaranteed a license AND it’s not returnable if you read the small print 👿 .
TC
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By definition DEFRA say that…
As soon as the original consumer no longer needs or wants the goods then that then become WEEE and falls into the scope of the legislation.
Therefore, anything that is sold as not working (waste), uplifted as written off and so on is, fundamentally waste and falls into qualifying as WEEE. All of it requires a waste carriers license to move, a lot more if you want to recondition machines, by the letter of the law and the interpretation of it by DEFRA.
If you want to clarify that it will cost a lot and a High Court case, possibly a judicial review. You can start with about £1 million and go from there depending on how many QC’s you want to throw at fighting the UK government and the Eurocrats.
Off the record, DEFRA fundamentally agree with reconditioning.
Therefore, fundamentally, I’m sure that all the machines that you ever uplift are taken away with the intention to repair and return to the customer. As, if this is the case, then you would not be in breach of the WEEE Legislation nor would you require a waste carriers licence as it isn’t then waste, it’s just a machine you’re doing a workshop repair on.
Of course, if you tell me that the machines were no longer required by the customer then they are waste and come under the scope of WEEE and, as such, you must declare that.
I am quite sure that most of you will operate within the legislation and only uplift machines that are to be repaired. If however you carry out those repairs and find that the customer rejects the repair as being too expensive and you subsequently sell the secondhand machine, well, that is also excluded from the WEEE Legislation.
I will trust that you will all operate within the confines of the legislation as set out by DEFRA and the various other bodies that regulate these very serious matters.
I hope that clarifies things for you all but if you want more information please feel free to ask questions.
HTH
K.
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Jackster – Your ebay buy, this is fairly easy to deal with, if the seller is indicating that it works or might be made to work then it is not WEEE but if they indicate that it is duff or that you might take parts off it then it is WEEE. Strangly it is the seller that indicates if it is WEEE not the buyer having inspected it 😯
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Anyone have a template or know the correct wording required for the collection notes.
‘Spares’ do you all leave the old parts for the customer to dispose of (customers bin to landfill) or can you use the forms for scrap parts as well?
Steven
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If I’m Correct The Electrolux Contractors Have To Register For Weee Licence With Defra Even if You Carry A old Pump On The Van There Was A Notice About it February This Year.
its A Wonder That Any Of You Chaps Ha vent Caught on To This Weee Game 🙂
A local Business Down My neck of The Woods has The Contract With The Local Council To Take There Waste Appliances Away These Lads Are Now Driving Around In Sports Cars Only Been Running A Short Time Its A Closed Shop Iv Tried to See If I Could Purchase Some Myself To Refurb The Vast Majority of Them Have Miner Faults Thay Don’t Want To Even Meet You. Iv got A Contact With The Chamber of Trade And Asked Him About It He Got Backed To Me And Was Very Distant About This Scam 8O.
ALL IL Say If You Got A Bit Of Land This Is The Business To Get Into
It Wouldn’t SUPPRISE me THAT the LOCAL council ARE paying THE scrap MEN to TAKE the MACHINES away
There Defently A Lot OF back HANDERS going ON :rolls:Re: Scrap & Weee
garn wrote:If I’m Correct The Electrolux Contractors Have To Register For Weee Licence With Defra Even if You Carry A old Pump On The Van There Was A Notice About it February This Year.
Not my local one, they don`t even safety check after repair, so unlikely to know about WEEEEEEEEEEE.
How many Appliance Engineers/Companies have been prosecuted/fined.
I bet its very very very few. :rolls:
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