servis m3510 wont spin ? only 1 year old !!!!!!!!!!!

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  • #116009
    kwatt
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    Penguin, normally I’d agree with you and, on many other brands you’d be spot on but after seeing a few hundred Servis machines as warranty calls you get to know that water = naffed board 99.9{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} of the time.

    The only reason I know about the resistor trick is that Servis ran out of stock of them for a while and that seemed to cure some, if not all, but for the few pence it’s worth a go IMO.

    From what Stevie originally said about the Y-hose leaking (a not uncommon fault with them BTW) often the water will track to the lowest point at the rear of the drum, drip onto the motor commutator and BLAM! Just what damage it does depends on the severity of the leak obviously but it’s not normally good news as it often dead shorts the comm and takes the module with it, sometimes the harness as well as the edge connectors just about disintegrate on some of them.

    Since the usual prices for a motor exceed the purchase price of the appliance let alone adding the £80 ish module, every one of them is usually a write-off!

    Due the low cost of the appliance, I assume, there is no splash shielding on either the motor or the harness, the module is housed in a box but that’s not watertight by any standard. Water, electricity and electronics rarely mix well together. 😉

    K.

    #116010
    Penguin45
    Participant

    Yep, Ken, agree with every word!

    Penguin45.

    #116011
    admin
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    Re: servis m3510 wont spin ? only 1 year old !!!!!!!!!!!

    hi k I’m going to try the resistor trick mate,
    where can i get them from
    cheers
    stevie 🙄

    #116012
    kwatt
    Keymaster

    If I recall correctly we had to get them from RS Components but it was a while ago. 😕

    K.

    #116013
    admin
    Keymaster

    Re: servis m3510 wont spin ? only 1 year old !!!!!!!!!!!

    had a look on the web at rs and maplins websites but couldnt find any resistors that look like the ones on the module, are these a specific type of resistor
    what is it i ask for k 🙄 🙄 🙄
    cheers
    stevie
    ps thanks for your advise

    #116014
    Penguin45
    Participant

    RS p/no 206 1186 6k8 7w wirewound ceramic resistor.

    Luck,
    Penguin45.

    #116015
    kwatt
    Keymaster

    Ehm, I think we had to do some digging but I asked a collegue and he’s positive that RS did list them in their catalouge. Sorry, it’s been at least 18 months or more since I last looked at them as we will replace the failed component in accordance with the manufacturer’s instruction and that generally means not going to component level.

    K.

    #116016
    smbodywork
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    Re: servis m3510 wont spin ? only 1 year old !!!!!!!!!!!

    just had a look at the rs website penguin and the one you mentioned dosent look anything like it will it still do the same job 🙄 🙄 🙄

    #116017
    Penguin45
    Participant

    If we are talking about the 2 large white “ballast” resistors on the 546 type digital control board these should be a suitable replacement.

    Penguin45.

    #116018
    smbodywork
    Participant

    Penguin45 wrote:If we are talking about the 2 large white “ballast” resistors on the 546 type digital control board these should be a suitable replacement.

    Penguin45.

    cheers mate took your advise and ordered the resistors from rs
    they’re only a tenner delivered, so ive nothing to lose if they dont cure the problem

    thanks again

    and to all who have replied to this thread, your talents are wasted on whitegoods you should all work for N.A.S.A 😆 😆 😆

    CHEERS

    #116019
    Penguin45
    Participant

    NASA buys what we don’t drink to use as rocket propellant………

    Let us know how you get on,
    Regards,
    Penguin45.

    #116020
    smbodywork
    Participant

    Re: servis m3510 wont spin ? only 1 year old !!!!!!!!!!!

    rocket propellant …….. mmm if the resistors dont work i might try a pint of that in the machine to make it bl***y spin
    😀 😯
    will let you know if it blows up the house !!!!
    cheers

    #116021
    admin
    Keymaster

    Re: servis m3510 wont spin ? only 1 year old !!!!!!!!!!!

    My washing machine is a blucher inox M8144 and the module is exactly the same.

    I have the following symptoms:
    When it should spin it won’t get up to speed. It just kinda goes back and forth at a lower speed.

    Now What I would like to ask is:

    Is this indeed what you saw on the machine you were working on and did replacing the resistor do the trick.

    Hope you can help

    Jeroen Paes

    #116022
    Penguin45
    Participant

    Hi Jeroen,
    I’m afraid to say we never did find out how this ended. The general concensus was that the module was the most likely problem as with so many of these Merloni built machines.

    There are some good points to check in this thread to give you some guidance, but if you’re not sure get professional help.

    Regards,
    Penguin45.

    #116023
    silverfox
    Participant

    I have a problem with a friends machine purchased in Holland. Following this thread it looks like I have the same module quoted earlier. Apparently during a spin cycle the machine blew up and caused the electrical circuit in the house to trip out. I have examined the board and it looks like one of the relays has burnt out causing the small resistor R64 to burn onto the L1 coil. Basically it is knackered, but I was wondering how much a replacement would cost and where would I get one ?

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