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September 12, 2009 at 12:41 am #48533
Amorya
ParticipantMy ancient Indesit washing machine has just decided to leak water when draining. I can’t open the filter cover to check since the screw seems to have corroded or something… and it never was a good machine anyway (I inherited it from sitting in someone’s garage). I think it’s time for a new one.
So, I’m fairly broke at the moment, and was considering one of the Beko machines. But after reading about modern cheap washing machines I’m considering trying to find the extra cash for something decent. In particular, I really like the promise of shorter wash times from the AW23, as the 2 hours per cycle that most machines do is pretty long.
But, the AW23 costs about twice as much as a budget machine. Will it last twice as long? My current one must be well over a decade (Its model number is 2500, anyone know?) and anecdotally I haven’t heard many tales of washing machines failing young, compared to other kinds of appliance. Do modern basic washing machines really die that much quicker?
Also, I’m in Coventry. Anyone know if the delivery service would uninstall my old machine before installing the new?
Amorya
September 12, 2009 at 11:16 am #296847kwatt
KeymasterRe: Talk me into an AW23
We’re often asked that question of many machines, how long will it last?
The short answer is there is no simplistic answer.
It depends on a lot of different factors such as, how often it’s used, what sort of programs you use and how well you look after it.
Just like light bulbs, TV’s and a host of other consumer electronics, washing machines and other appliances do have an expected lifespan, but it’s not in terms of years. A lot of budget machines are designed for 6-800 uses. Most mid-range machines, like the AW23 are designed for 2-3000 uses as there’s a bit more money to spend on better build and components. Then you get up to the ISE10 which is designed for 12,000 cycles or more.
This is why you will see people that have a cheap washing machine that lasts a few years, it’s just because it’s not getting much use, usually due to a single person only using it or a couple. Whereas the same machine coping with a family of five will die, quickly.
It is often very hard for us to tell people that they’re buying the wrong thing for the wrong use and, all too often, it simply comes down to price as beyond the odd spin speed or load requirement that people especially want. Oh so often we see people buying a cheap machine and we just know, due to the use, it isn’t going to last.
The AW23 is a good machine for the money, loads of features and they work very well indeed. All we’ve had back is praise for them pretty much but how long it will last depends entirely on the use.
The ISE10, which I realise will be way out your budget, will likely last four to six times longer but it costs almost twice as much upfront.
I hope that helps and goes some way to helping you understand washing machine lifespans.
K.
September 12, 2009 at 10:33 pm #296848Amorya
ParticipantRe: Talk me into an AW23
How does the AW23 compare to other machines in its price range? I’ve seen Bosch recommended, and they do a few for around/under £400.
As regards use, I rent out rooms in my house, and currently have five people (including me) living here. I’d say we wash about as much as your average family 🙂
Thanks for all your advice,
Amorya
September 12, 2009 at 11:20 pm #296849kwatt
KeymasterRe: Talk me into an AW23
Hi Amorya,
Most manufacturers will regard that as semi-commercial use.
The “average” family will do about 300-350 loads per year. So, more that one load a day constitutes an abnormally heavy use. Then factor in multiple users, which is actually more of an issue as less care is taken because there’s usually someone that just doesn’t take care, check pockets for things that shouldn’t be there and so on. Normally there’s one, maybe two, people in a household that use a machine.
I’d recommend that you consider something a bit more robust than you can get in the price range, that means looking carefully at the budget I’m afraid.
The AW23 will compete quite happily all day long with similar Bosch machines in that price bracket.
Sorry if it’s not what you want to hear, but I’m trying to be as straight up as I can be.
HTH
K.
September 13, 2009 at 1:56 am #296850Amorya
ParticipantRe: Talk me into an AW23
I suppose something like the ISE10 would meet your definition of a bit more robust? 🙂
Of course, I really want one. I like having something that is the best and will definitely be reliable. If money was no object I’d be ordering one now. As it is…
I guess I’ll look carefully at my finances!
Amorya
September 23, 2009 at 3:25 am #296851gandh1
ParticipantRe: Talk me into an AW23
Amorya,
If you are part-renting your property it may be worth considering the ise10
if only for the fact i think KWATT was refferring to, was usage. the ise10 engineers have a level and degree of discretion which can be utilised that the bosch engineers cant!
apart from this obviously its worth remembering the cheapest bosch in their range is priced a little higher than an equivalent hotpoint or zanussi cos of the kudos if their brand name! mechanically, a slightly more expensive ise will spank all over a bosch 😛
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