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October 15, 2015 at 7:54 am #86386
Robertwo
ParticipantHi
I have a AEG oven, model BP8615001M, that has telescopic runners for the racks.
Stupidly I left the runners in while I set the self clean function and this has destroyed all the lubricant on the runners so they now are very stiff and noisy to pull in and out.
I have been looking for a lubricant for them but I’m struggling to find anything suitable that is food grade and will withstand the high temperatures in the oven.
I’ve found very small tubes of a lubricant on partmaster but it doesn’t have any details about size, if it’s actually suitable and is a ridiculous price for what looks to be a tiny tube.
Can anyone recommend a suitable high temperature lubricant for the runners as I’m sure this is a common problem and engineers who work on these ovens can’t be paying nearly £20 for a tiny tube of lubricant.
Many thanks
October 15, 2015 at 8:57 am #430971Martin
ParticipantRe: Telescopic Rack Runner Grease/Lubricant
DO NOT lubricate the runners with any lubricant. See attached section of the appliance ‘users manual’ on the subject especially the CAUTION section…..
October 15, 2015 at 9:15 am #430972kwatt
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Yeah, didn’t think there was any and I could find any grease or lubricant used for such a purpose as, it’d be a magnet for detritus in an oven I expect.
An expensive error I’m afraid as I expect that the bars are warped or the parts that hold the bearings in place, that’s why on pyro ovens the say to take it all out as even shelves tend to warp on pyro cycle.
Here’s why it’s an expensive error…
http://shop.ukwhitegoods.co.uk/56151482 … ners-11599
K.
October 15, 2015 at 10:46 am #430973Robertwo
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Thanks for the replies.
@kwatt, the runners haven’t warped and the bearings and housings are still perfectly in tact. With a little grease they run perfectly, just need the right grease which doesn’t smoke while the oven is running, which;There is actually a grease available just for this job which I’ve found while waiting for replies here.
Either of these will do the job:
http://www.partmaster.co.uk/temperature … ven+grease
@UKWHITEGOODS, you may want to look in to stocking these products as I am sure I am not the only person who has forgotten to remove the sliders before cleaning, or put them through a dishwasher.Bit expensive at £16 for 6g, but its a hell of a lot cheaper than kwatts idea of spending £225 of 3 new sets of sliders and they reckon that one tube will do 5 to 6 applications per pair of sliders, so should do all 3 sets of mine twice hopefully.
Hope this helps anyone with this problem in the future.
Thanks
October 15, 2015 at 11:06 am #430974kwatt
KeymasterRe: Telescopic Rack Runner Grease/Lubricant
I’m looking at AEG tech and Martin is telling you what is in the instruction manual which categorically tells you not to do that but you must know better. Or, you’ll take a punt on it and, that’s fine.
All we can do is tell you what’s there from the manufacturer or, what we’ve experienced. On most pyros if you leave just about anything in them on a full pyro cycle, it’s toast and ruined.
But I’ve listed that grease here for you if you are going to give it a go and, I don’t blame you at the price of the replacement runners, which is nuts:
http://shop.ukwhitegoods.co.uk/40713568 … cant-11600
K.
October 15, 2015 at 12:12 pm #430975Robertwo
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Thanks….
I’m a bit confused now, I came to your forum to ask for some help as I assumed what seems to be correctly that you guys are experts of sorts in these things.
My first post asked if anyone could recommend a lubricant for the telescopic runners.
I got two replies, one quoting the instruction manual and saying don’t lubricate the runners (I have the manual and can read), even after I explained that the grease had been incinerated by accident, then another reply to say there isn’t a grease for such a purpose and that buying new runners at £75 a pair was the expensive mistake I had made.
I reply with two other companies that can in fact supply exactly the correct grease, including the actual manufacturer, AEG, and you then suddenly start saying I know better and that actually this company suddenly does happen to sell it and its description as below is exactly what I was looking for:
“High temperature silicon based lubricant or grease for use on oven racks and telescopic arms“
All i can say is WHAT…. Were you trying a sales pitch on me for new runners even when I said in my original post that I had seen a tube of grease on another site, but wasn’t 100{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} sure if it was the right stuff.
I came here for help and some expert advice. You say you can only tell me what the manufacturer says and what you have experienced…. Since you were able to track the product down in minutes, when I couldn’t find it on your site after searching for 10 minutes I am assuming you all ready knew about the product and knew exactly where to find it on the site, probably as you’ve experienced this problem in the past.
Had you just put up the link in the first instance, I would have now placed an order for a couple of tubes or so and you would have had a grateful customer, but you didn’t!!
You know what, I ordered up the Miele grease at £16 a tube from another supplier and it’ll be here tomorrow. Your site might be selling it at £6-7 a tube less but I’m glad I spent my cash elsewhere as I expect to go to a forum for impartial and expert help, I don’t expect to go to it and get a sales pitch for over priced parts I don’t need and attitude from you as with your comment “You must know better”. I do bloody know better, I’ve been a mechanical engineer for 20+ years and I have the rails sat here in front of me, all I wanted was a lubricant for the rails, unfortunately the lubrications I use on bearings etc do not stand up the prolonged temperatures of the oven, I have tried a grease with 1100C properties, but it’s for flash rises in temperature and rapid cooling after the event, in an oven it smokes a lot, hence I hoped someone here would give me a clear answer rather than posting pages from the instruction manual.
This is what’s the matter with people like you, you’re too interested in selling bits rather than taking the time to fix anything nowadays as you live in a throw-away world and don’t give a S**t what it costs the customer.
Please feel free to delete my account as I will not be coming back here after this experience.
I’d thank you for your help, but you didn’t help in the slightest, you just pi***d me off and covered your backs by posting a link to your product so other potential customers reading the post don’t disappear off your site to a competitor in the future.
October 15, 2015 at 1:29 pm #430976Martin
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Who was it once said : “You can satisfy some of the people all the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you cannot satisfy all of the people all the time”???
My colleague and I just laid out the facts, as we know them to be to you, since you asked the question on here of someone, anyone even. That’s all we did Robert, don’t fall out of your tree matey. We appreciate you dropping by, sorry we couldn’t be of more service. Please call by anytime again should you feel the urge, but reign in your niggleometer a bit as I think you have set the threshold a little too low.
October 15, 2015 at 1:33 pm #430977kwatt
KeymasterRe: Telescopic Rack Runner Grease/Lubricant
Robert,
AEG state categorically not to do that on those runners.
They do NOT show that grease as being used in your model.
What effect that will have, whether it will work or anything else, I cannot say.
Those are facts.
You have ferreted about and found that grease being used on other machines and, in the case of the product you’ve ordered, a different brand altogether. That may well work but, I don’t know that.
So, if I or anyone else tells you that what you’ve done will be fine, it’s all good and it doesn’t work and perhaps causes more harm then who are you going to blame for that?
Next, what about the next 100 people or whatever that read this thread and take it as gospel that modifications and, it is a modification to the original spec, will be just fine. Who will they blame?
I didn’t ask you to buy new arms, if you’d read back. What I did was post the link to the part that AEG list as a replacement, no more. I didn’t try to sell you anything at all, I really am not all that bothered, it’s up to you what you choose to do.
I also stated, in the previous post that I agree, they do seem overpriced but that’s not really anything to do with me or UKW, we don’t set the pricing, AEG did that so if you’ve a problem with it, take it up with AEG.
If you don’t like what AEG tell us, take that up with AEG also.
If you choose to ignore what they say, that’s your call.
And, if you’d notice, I did also say that I’d take a punt on it as well given the price of replacement runners. .
Then when I found a part number for that grease, which isn’t normally stocked in the UK for your information, I posted it as it was cheaper that what you’d found.
So, you can think what you like but I don’t feel the picture you paint is entirely accurate and at no point have you been given incorrect information.
K.
August 28, 2017 at 9:32 am #430978BMJT
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Does anyone have any updated links to buy this, or a similar grease? The price from the Part Master link above is up to an eye-watering £24 now.
Thanks.
August 28, 2017 at 3:56 pm #430979don
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I have had a good look around and nothing cheaper even if you get some from across the pond 😉
Better to bite the bullet and get some before the price rises again which it will.
Don
August 28, 2017 at 4:17 pm #430980Martin
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Amazon do one at £9.99
Called OKS silicone grease.August 28, 2017 at 8:31 pm #430981BMJT
ParticipantRe: Telescopic Rack Runner Grease/Lubricant
Thanks both, I think i’ll give that stuff from Amazon a go.
Cheers!
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