Testing or Bypassing Door Interlock

[iadom]

Re: Testing or Bypassing Door Interlock

Hi Baron, you can either host it on a file hosting web site such as Image Shack or Putfile. You then copy the url and paste it into a post, or you can e-mail it to me and I will post it up for you.

Jim.

[admin]

It’s send. Thanks Jim

[iadom]

Re: Testing or Bypassing Door Interlock

Here you go, 🙂

[admin]

I have forget to mention that the lamp and plugin is for 220Volts

And more important is you don’t have to carry out for schort-circuit= nominal power lighting lamp ( same effect when contact is closing on doorlock ).

Baron

[squadman]

Re: Testing or Bypassing Door Interlock

Public Liabilty ? If you were found to be negligent ( Which I expect you Would Be ) what would your insurers view of this be ? of course I am assuming that you do have such insurance ?

Really I have over the years been requested to bypass interlocks but my answer is always the same. No thanks ! I would not want this on my mind and having seen a young child who nearly had an arm torn off when they were able to place their limb into a machine on spin just brings the implications into focus.

Never, Never, Ever subscribe to this practice is my strong advise, just lke another practice of leaving appliances with earthing faults with potential to cause injury or death. I have seen engineers working without any kind of insulation tester ( i.e Megger ) and they have the same sort of attitude that it will probably be alright .

In this age of litigation this worries me that there are those who subscribe to this dodgy practice.

[admin]

Also is my opinion: DON’T BYPASS DOORLOCK!!!
Only one hazard-man can do that… without any responsability in mind… from my point of view= closed subject.

Tool is only for testing object itself not for other proposal!

[andy2]

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squadman wrote:Never, Never, Ever subscribe to this practice is my strong advise

And excellent advice it is!

BUT its Friday afternoon, can’t get a spare delivered until tuesday at the earliest, it is a customer who you are on first name terms with and have been going to for 20 years. You know they will obey your instructions to the letter. They have a incontinent relative who generates a huge pile of washing everyday…….blah, blah, blah.

Oh that life was always so simple and straightforward!

Andy 😀

[gegsy]

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Launderette or neighbour Andy 😉

Greg

[Fairdeal]

Re: Testing or Bypassing Door Interlock

Thanks Baron for the picture.

Is it possbile if you can explian the diagram a little bit please?

How do I find out which number on the doorlock is live and which is neutral?

and what are the 11 and 14 connections for?

Regards

Omar

[admin]

Re: Testing or Bypassing Door Interlock

Omar,
Connection 11&14 is just for example one door lock with contact for door-closed (ex: some bauknecht, whirlpool, Ariston_Indesit etc). It was for diversity of information. :taz:
For finding N, L& C: you can check with measurement tool (always between terminal N&L you gone find thermal resistor. And after that plug the direct wire to one of those terminal found and other wire (thru lamp) to second terminal. Plug to main power and you gone see lamp just short illuminate and loosing power until you hear contacts sound. Unplug him and measure between which remaining terminal “C” made contacts = ➡ contact “L” (do this with blocking device moved to “closed door status”).

After that if you plug terminals like in diagram you gone have from closed (blocking) status powerful illuminated lamp 💡 after approx. 2÷5 sec.

[andy2]

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Don’t get me wrong Greg, I am in no way condoning bypassing an interlock and i agree wholeheartedly with all the posts to that effect.

But everyday in life we take calculated risks of one form or another and if the truth were known i reckon that most appliance technicians / technicianesses have done this at some time as a temporary measure to help out a customer.

But i may be wrong.

Tin hat time, head down.

Andy 😀

[lokring]

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I cant understand how or why this is a “trade tech” . We’ll get how do you wire a plug next!!

[squadman]

Re: Testing or Bypassing Door Interlock

Lokring,

Of course you are completely right in your view of this topic, this is basic stuff at best and to be honest ( hold on while I get my tin hat on ) It both worries and surpises me that there are people who are working as service engineers with this level of knowledge.

A large part of our job is understanding electrical circuits and basic ohms law of course coupled with some further ingrediants such as mechanical appitude, health & safety ( both for yourself as well as your customers )
Public relations, being a good listener, being well organised, to name but a few! and lets no forget some COMMON SENSE

My advice to anyone thinking of taking the route to becoming a trained engineer is to study up with some electrical theory books, and start small perhaps with a company who has openings for a trainee small appliance engineer and gradually work their way up through the trade.

Funny enough about 18 months ago we had two fellas turn up in the shop who started buying spares, they knew very little but asked a lot of questions to various staff. Over a period of weeks we suddenly realised that as opposed to repairing their own appliances or for a relative, they had decided to setup a casual business and were in fact what could be described as competitors, albeit buying their spares from us.

Well needless to say it wasn’t long before they started having problems due to lack of knowledge, training, being out of their depth and most amazingly that people actually let these cowboys into their homes.

I personally would like to see a offical body which offered both support, training and acreditation for our trade and this of course has been mooted here before. Most trades have chancers and cowboys amongst them and our trade is no different but by having a body in place and carrying goverment legislation it would get rid of many of these types and make more work for the rest of us as well as give our profession some well deserved kudos.

[Fairdeal]

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squadman I am a qualified electrician as well so no need to show how to wire a plug or tell about ohms law.

Sometimes what happens you get confused with simple things(happens to everyone) so better to ask someone instead of just be quite about it.And that is the whole point i think of this site to help one another?

I did have this tool to test the door lock but i lost it so just wanted to confirm.And because locks have delayed period so I thought better ave explaination of the connections.

[lokring]

Re: Testing or Bypassing Door Interlock

thanks squadman!!!!

i agree fully with all you say and thanks for the backup…..

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