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June 30, 2005 at 10:49 am #109509
electrofix
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got a method i have used for years to successfully remove most collapsed bearing without drilling
June 30, 2005 at 10:50 am #109510electrofix
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got a method i have used for years to successfully remove most collapsed bearing without drilling
buy a new bearing or the same size and take it to bits by damaging the cage and moving all balls to one end
you can now reassemble the inner ring and 5 or 6 balls in the broken race if they move a small dob of grease helps
you can now drift out the damaged bearing or use the removal tool
once out remove the inner and balls and store for next time
you have made a useful tool so the bearing can be used over and over again
hope this helps it got me out of some scrapes and allowed me to do jobs the competition cant
Dave
June 30, 2005 at 11:14 am #109511alexa
ParticipantWith Hoover Front loaders that have lost their inner race and the outer race is flush with the housing so you can’t get a drift on it, I get a stick welder and give a three good dollops of weld to the inside of the outer race at 120 degrees apart.
This heats the outer race and breaks its seal with the housing.
It also cracks the outer race so that it can come out in pieces.
It also gives a bit of metal on which a drift can obtain a puchase.
The diecasting doesn’t mind a bit.
July 5, 2005 at 7:05 am #109512Phidom
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electrofix wrote:got a method i have used for years to successfully remove most collapsed bearing without drilling
buy a new bearing or the same size and take it to bits by damaging the cage and moving all balls to one end
you can now reassemble the inner ring and 5 or 6 balls in the broken race if they move a small dob of grease helps
Dave
Most being the operative word. If the outer race is badly worn your balls will just keep coming out 😉 You can also fit thin bolts and nuts between the individual balls to stop them moving.
July 5, 2005 at 7:42 am #109513Martin
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jimbo2207 wrote:jesus Martin, sounds like a long winded way of doing it to me!
Let me see now, it takes me on average 3 minutes to drill the access slots behind the bearing sleeve and another 30 seconds to whack it out with a hammer and chisel. 8)
But I’ve only been in the trade for 40 years so what do I know :rotl:
…and reading some of the other ingenious methods applied for such a simple task I wonder with some amusement 🙄
July 5, 2005 at 8:10 am #109514alexa
ParticipantWe tend to not have built in washing machines.
Also front loaders tend to be in the minority.
Top loaders make up 80{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} of the market. (F&P have 30{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} of this top loader market)
Front loaders are free standing beside a cupboard so its just as easy to take the machine or the part back to the workshop to remove the old bearings.The front loaders tend to be the high end of the market. (Bosch Miele Asko)
All this means that it is uncommon for us to do a bearing change on a front loader maybe 1 in 400 jobs. (Hoover)
This means that we are not so geared up in the vehicles to do a bearing knock out.
Also for a customer to see you “destroying” their machine would give your opposition a field day. (Nah we don’t do that! I wouldn’t use them! Contact Watchdog! Cowboys!)July 5, 2005 at 8:19 am #109515iadom
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I wouldn’t call my method, “ingeneous” it is simple, fast, removes 75{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} of outer shells without recourse to the ‘big ‘ammer’ and does no damage whatsoever to the outer sleeve. 🙂
But then I have only been doing them for 38 years so I guess I still have a lot to learn. 😉 😀July 5, 2005 at 8:34 am #109516Dave_Conway
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Whatever works best for you really is the key, as long as the job gets done eh ? 😀
It’s still very interesting to read how different methods have evolved and some excellent ideas have come up along the way.
Dave.
July 5, 2005 at 8:41 am #109517iadom
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As my old Grandad used to say, ” there’s more than one way to skin a cat” 🙂
July 5, 2005 at 9:26 am #109518electrofix
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i can see where other posters are coming from but in my opinion use use the method which is going to cause the least damage
with my method on a wma machine i have had 2 problems removing rings
1 where the whole sleeve came out
2 where the ring was damaged the bearing would not stay in placeclean around the old sleeve add a bit of wd40 put bearings into place place tub on b&d workmate so as to miss lugs and heater and using a drift (i have an old shaft from a hot T/L)
if using method on a wm machine i use the hotpoint puller kit and ring drops out a treat most of the time
my method was originally used to get the bearing out of the 3314 twin tub which if fell to bits was a challenge by any other methodJuly 5, 2005 at 11:32 am #109519Martin
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iadom wrote: there’s more than one way to skin a cat
Indeed so and most welcome to learn these new tricks. Even this old dog learnt a brilliant one the other day about fitting those darn Zanussi Door Seal Springs in place with a scrunched up paper kitchen towel. Now all the while I’ve been using a shaped piece of wood as a wedge, but this paper towel trick I tried and its much easier 😀
Top marks the guy who posted it, cant remember now, me being old un’ the memory slips don’t you know :tup:
Roll on the next jammed bearing sleeve job I get, is what I say. I will try the other alternatives or perhaps even use the ‘power of the mind’ that Yuri Geller speaks so highly of before I reach in my box for that ‘Birmingham Spanner’ :rotfl:
July 5, 2005 at 12:47 pm #109520washtec
ParticipantI normally drill two holes in the collar behind the shell, but I am going to give your method a go electrofix, There is one guy I know of who uses a dremmel to destroy the outer shell…although I find the hardest part of doing a WMA bearing job is getting the shaft off, I normally end up using my blowlamp and oven gloves 🙂
July 6, 2005 at 1:26 am #109521electrofix
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@ washtec
I know what you mean abut the wma shaft screws i stated out getting about 50{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} out then it dropped to none on the last batch. This is not a job i do in the customers home i have got 4 drum units which i recon 2 or three at a time and do a complete swop in the house find that the best way as using blow lamp in customers houses is not recommended on insurance grounds
What i want to know is why some machines have six screws in and some only 3 another penny pinching ariston scheme ?
Dave
July 6, 2005 at 7:33 am #109522Phidom
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Perhaps they do this so that if you are renewing the inner drum rather than the spider you are meant to just drill out the 3 existing screws and use new screws in the spare screw holes for the new drum.
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