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January 6, 2013 at 8:15 pm #369780
cab
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WHAT a bit costly me thinks
January 6, 2013 at 8:36 pm #369781iadom
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You do know how much Apple charge for this stuff, its hardly likely to get the same number of downloads as Angry Birds it it?
£40 per annum is 77p per week. If it helps you solve only four or five jobs in a year it must surely be worth it, unless of course your time is not that valuable. 😉
AFAIK, there is virtually no profit for UKWG’s from this.
January 6, 2013 at 8:41 pm #369782Martin
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I don’t understand the £3.99 per month bit???
I guess it is a scaled up version of the previous ‘one off’ version that was sold in the Shop@ for just 2p?
What’s in it that you could temp would be purchases into such a seemily costly investment?
January 6, 2013 at 8:50 pm #369783kwatt
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Wow, £40 is a costly investment!
How about the days I spent getting all the info on there. The weeks Sudeep spent building the backend database and then the further weeks spent developing the front end app for iOS.
Then there the cost of the developer for Android, running at about £4K currently for what’s been done just to get it operational.
Now, if in light of that you think that the apps are expensive then, to be blunt, I couldn’t give a stuff as trust me, it is HUGELY discounted.
Or, perhaps we just shouldn’t bother if all you can do is slag off the paltry sum that won’t even cover the development costs. :rolls:
K.
January 6, 2013 at 9:08 pm #369784cab
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A one of cost of £40 for life might be acceptable but not every year
January 6, 2013 at 9:11 pm #369785kwatt
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Are you having a laugh?
Have you any concept of what it takes to maintain these things at all?
Update data.
Add new data.
Keep it all up to date on Apple and Google stores.
There’s a hell of a lot to it and, sadly it doesn’t all happen by magic and for free.
So yes, it will be annual subscription as there is simply no other way to pay for it unless you have a developer or three that can do it all for nothing?
K.
January 6, 2013 at 9:15 pm #369786iadom
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And if it was ‘given away’ for a paltry sum there would be a queue of moaners on here winging about it being that cheap that any and every Tom, Dick & Harry is going to download it. :rolls:
January 6, 2013 at 9:17 pm #369787cab
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I can buy a TOM TOM europe satnav map for £50 dont have to buy it every year!!
January 6, 2013 at 9:20 pm #369788kwatt
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Yeah but we’ll sell maybe a couple hundred copies.
Thy’ll sell a couple million plus.
Big difference when it comes to spreading the costs and, we don’t flog you stuff after that.
But you have a choice, don’t buy it if you don’t want to pay for it.
K.
January 6, 2013 at 9:23 pm #369789iadom
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I have a Tom Tom sat nav and to get Live traffic updates and four map updates per annum costs a lot more than £40.
If you want an updated map you will have to pay for it.
January 6, 2013 at 9:26 pm #369790Martin
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We get your point on the cost now Ken but now please sell it to us…what’s in it? Is there a FREE trial version coming out?
January 6, 2013 at 9:39 pm #369791kwatt
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There is a free trial version Martin but the info on it is very limited indeed.
There is more to be done and new info to be added but, it all takes time and time costs money as, if I’m doing that then I’m not doing things that do earn a coin. It really is that plain and simple.
If the take up is low then I’ll simply drop it and not bother as being not financially viable. TBH it’s not financially viable as it is as we’ve lost a shedload on it thus far as, to recoup the cost alone, we’d have to sell in excess of about 3000 copies at least which is highly unlikely.
Bear in mind that, as I already explained somewhere, what you see isn’t entirely what you might think as we don’t get £40 for each one sold.
The VAT man takes his cut. Then Apple or Google take a whopping 30{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} of the sale and we get whatever is left.
What irked me here is the notion that UKW is to lose still more money on something that it is already losing money on and derives absolutely no benefit from whatsoever other than the thanks from those that appreciate it.
All the tech info has to be rewritten to avoid copyright infringement claims unless we have specific permission to reprint in the apps. That takes a mountain of time to do and, believe me when I tell you that for me, it is mind numbingly boring.
In time I hope to be able to embed video into it although, you will need to be on a pukka WiFi connection to use it I guess, 4G if you’re lucky, to show some stuff. I want to play with the format as I think that there’s a lot that could be done to help the field engineers with it if you get a little creative.
But, doing videos…. costs money.
So this is a proof of concept and all that’s been done is that the old FCG has been moved across to a digital format (it cost £20 a throw BTW and wasn’t up-dateable) and I added a bunch of new codes I found. There’s also expanded “what to check” bits in there from info gleaned from tech info and the forums but, not for all as again it takes mountains of time to do it, especially if you want it to be right as it has to be done by someone with the knowledge to do so. For now, that’d be me and me alone.
The beauty of the format of course is that you can update all in jig time and correct any errors likewise, which is a huge benefit IMO.
K.
January 6, 2013 at 10:19 pm #369792DrDill
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At £40 its cheap! I spend more than that on tools each year!
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http://www.kitchenkitsw.comJanuary 7, 2013 at 8:14 am #369793Martin
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DrDill wrote:At £40 its cheap! I spend more than that on tools each year!
It’s £47.88 per annum Doc in fact, how many tools do you lose in a year then? :clown:
Ken, will subscribers be able to reclaim the annual cost against Tax? And will VAT invoices be issued?
January 7, 2013 at 8:17 am #369794kwatt
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Martin wrote:Ken, will subscribers be able to reclaim the annual cost against Tax? And will VAT invoices be issued?
Don’t see why not as it’s an Apple or Google issued invoice.
K.
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