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I’m planning to redo my kitchen but due to a lack of space I cannot afford the luxury of a separate washer and dryer so have been researching the option of a combined washer dryer. From what I’ve read so far the Heat Pump options seem to be better at not heating up the room and being more energy efficient but the manufacturers are not making the selection process easy as most don’t state whether the machine uses heat pump or condenser drying technology. Also the combined wash and dry cycle times on some of these machines is super long, 7-8+ hours and again the manufacturers don’t really state the combined cylce times.
Can anyone recommend any good washer dryer options that are heat pump based and have a reasonable wash and dry cycle time?
[USER=”125″]don[/USER] up your street m8
washer dryers can be a bit of a headache both for users and engineers
yes your going to get long use times and you cant start the next load till its finished. You cant wash and dry full loads as you need more room in the drum to dry
add in heat pump technology and your in for some expense just to buy it
Dave
Thx I appreciate the heat pump options are most costly and have longer cycles but from what i understand they are more energy efficient so perhaps a better long term option.
have tagged in Don. he is sort of our retail expert and he should comment when he sees the post
he will have more idea of the best options to buy
Dave
Think, least in uk there is only one to choose from and that is the AEG 9000 series freestanding heat pump washer dryer model L9WEC169R. Size is Height 870mm width 597mm and depth 636mm. price £1299.99. Could well be out of stock which could mean what it says or could be for machine technical reasons.Go AEG website then find Documents for this product and there is plenty to read most of which I haven`t. I went to their spares section to look up the machine and based my search on product code 91460032101. Complex machine of course got 4 pcboards all cost a lot just some more than others. Sealed tank at 231 quid. Door seal 60 quid. Several parts are not available ref the dryer and those parts do not have prices: this could mean the parts are being redesigned or to something more sinister so unknown. Warranty ?
Another brand h/pump w/dryer but not available in UK as far as known is the GE (usa), best see youtube video https://youtu.be/d80EZaoiQMg?si=eUyCyjE4ggRiDza3
No disrespect to you. But with all complex stuff a lot of engineers/tech with this machine out of its warranty will want to avoid it with a 20 foot bargepole, I would (I was in business to make some money and not to lose it!), so take that into account. Historically folk buy this kind of complex stuff then when it jacks expect local bod to attempt repairs because AEG will charge considerably more – but this machine is not a penny pinch machine (i.e. it is not a Vestel made Electra for example for 230 quid) and typically owners of such machines tend to do just that probably to pay for their never ending repairs to their Chelsea Tractor 4X4 Range Rover. The guys who work on this stuff are company trained, Tom Dick or Harry will not be. Bear that in mind for when it goes wrong which indeed it will. If normal condenser tumble dryers are famous for reliability issues one that has the extra complications of a heat pump too will no doubt be either just as tarnished or most likely worse.Read the reviews too as to what you should expect.There is also the LG Signature: https://www.lg.com/uk/laundry/washer-dryers/lswd100e/
It’s got one of those suspension systems where the drum moves and the tub is fixed, which might explain the reviews on that page complaining about socks getting stuck and torn clothes.
Below are a couple of videos showing a little of the innards of similar models sold in other markets.
I’m no expert, but the heat pump heat exchangers look quite small to me, to make it all fit in a standard sized appliance. The LG is actually rather deep.
They look complex and time consuming to repair. I would want a very long guarantee to give a good chance of recovering the extra spend on the appliance in electricity savings.Lg 2000 quids worth of trouble then. Didn`t know about this model even existed which is not at all surprising. One to lay down and avoid. Looks as though it shreaded her undies there! That`s a bummer.
AEG Russian video. So the jist is. Well he, Denis (Dennis), says it has some good features but it is compomised by being too complex. Too many marketing men involved and not enough thoughtful engineering has gone into the machine (although the basic idea has some merit) to make it accessible for repairing. Well, he t`aint wrong there except for the merit bit but that is just my opinion! One to avoid me thinks too. Thought the dryer lint filter was cheap and tacky and so about as much use as an Indesit pay increase or a chocolate fire guard. Almost as crazy as a 1980s Ariston CD1258 washer dryer where the design on paper looked groovy but they forgot that the dryer chamber the water would condense there and build up and leak out….which it did in abundance, that caused some fun and games, think that pile of junk were nearly 500 quid at the time….real spons back then.
Someone might have to rethink their plans. Buy a washing machine and a clothes horse, join the rest of us mere mortals, or buy a conventional washer dryer and also enjoy soggy wet lint blockages too where, I would suspect, it wouldn`t be covered by the warranty..Thanks everyone, so is the general consensus that all washer dryers are a bad idea or just heat pump ones?
Well since you would be buying a washer dryer and be buying it as a dryer to use a lot (that how it comes over) the consesus from my point of view would not to bother with a washer dryer whether conventional w/dry or a heat pump one (especially a heat pump washer dryer and even going further a heat pump tumble dryer too). OR if you really do want a w/dryer go for a conventional washer dryer and pray. What make I couldn`t tell you all I can tell you if you use one a lot expect blockages after a year or two. With the Zanussi w/dryer ones, you can get earth problems with the actual dryer heater which can give you a blank digital read out and so no go / nothing/ won`t even start and unless you knew that you could be buying 200 quids worth of new pcb which 9/10 will not cure the problem – things are not what they seem in other words especially in a so called new and improved C21st where nearly everything one way or another ends in tears / cock-up, you name it. Seems to me, though I`m retired now but only just, that the more expensive something is the more fraught with problems it shall have from cars with crap engine designs and unreiable electrics; what joy.
Found this on Ben`s youtube site. He tests an LG heat pump washer dryer. Its interesting. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqnhrHYlFXc
Its interesting that LG put a filter in that newer US sized model, but didn’t in their smaller versions, although having the filter access on the top is not ideal. I believe both have self cleaning coils. I expect he’s wrong about the tub element being used to boost the drying temperature. At least it doesn’t have the daft oversized door with the control panel in it.
Samsung also have an oversized heat pump washer dryer in the US, no videos yet: https://www.haneyapplianceandsound.c…g-wd53dba900hz
Here’s a better video of the AEG showing someone cleaning out the accumulated lint. https://youtu.be/6NffImYVF1I
Ta. Will have a look at the links but on an achaeological dig in the pooring rain presently. “I expect he’s wrong about the tub element being used to boost the drying temperature” me too, but you never know these days same as dc drain pumps. All gone overly high tech which might be great until it screws up, which it will….glad I`m now out the game. Glad he mentioned the compressor (the heat pump) comment because LG refrigeration have a diabolical reputation for bad compressors – lucky to make it to 2 years on the super duper energy efficient compressors, so efficient they soon fail, perhaps that is why, even Samsung are slightly better in that regards and that is a surprising major achievement in itself for them apparently.If you watch enough of Ben`s videos, and he has done loads, you soon come to the conclusion that everything is either challenged or just plain naff or if not it soon will be. He does trip up in a few videos but overall he is spot on.
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