washer/dryer recommendations please..

[stevefisher]

i would be grateful if anyone could help, we have an indesit widl washer dryer (not a good start, i realise!) and have thankfully received repair advice from these forums on several occasions in the past, but the machine is now faulty again and to be honest i’d now rather just replace it than repair it again – i’d therefore be grateful for any advice on what would be a good alternative, and this time as i realise you get what you pay for i’d be prepared to spend a little more this time!

thanks in advance…

[iadom]

Re: washer/dryer recommendations please..

Ist piece of advice is do not buy a washer dryer.

An idea of your budget may help. 😉

[stevefisher]

Re: washer/dryer recommendations please..

sorry, forgot that!

i’d rather separates as well, but we’re a bit tight for space at present.

ref budget, i thought something about £500-600 but have just been looking at some miele ones, as we’ve a dishwasher of theirs, but £1000 does seem rather a lot post christmas expenses 😕

[iadom]

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That is the only washer dryer worth having, anything else, even at £500 + will be a poor substitute for separates.

[stevefisher]

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ok thanks, that does seem to be the general consensus of opinion.

after saying we don’t have room for separates i think we are now going to try and make room! so my question now is what separates would be the recommendation? – price range would be something like 800-900 for both if possible ?

thanks again..

[iadom]

Re: washer/dryer recommendations please..

Mid range Bosch washer and Zanussi dryer, vented if possible.

[stevefisher]

Re: washer/dryer recommendations please..

thank you once again.

will a mid range bosch eg wae28165 be quiet (as that’s currently a major bugbear of mine) or is it better to spend a bit more on a higher end one or a miele?, i realise that would of course put me over my already rising budget 😯

i think the dryer would have to be a condenser one – i saw a bosch wte84105 for about £350 but will have a look at the zanussi’s shortly

cheers
steve

[Higher-water-level]

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Regarding noise from a Miele, they are almost silent on wash, all you can hear is the clothes sloshing about in the water. On spin you can faintly hear the motor but mainly just the pump, even on a fast 1400rpm spin. The only downside is the above relates to a commercial Miele, but from experience the domestic ones with brushless motors are just as quiet.

I have a 15 year old (or so) Bosch and it too is very quiet but, a friend bought a modern Bosch and it is far noisier than mine. I personally do not feel Bosch make the excellent products they used to and would certainly not have another one. My next washing machine will be a Miele without a second thought.

Miele do have restrictive servicing practices and the parts are very expensive so this too should be factored into the descision.

Oliver.

[iadom]

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Of course if you do intend to do the sensible thing and buy a quality washing machine then you can do no better than THIS

[Higher-water-level]

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iadom wrote:Of course if you do intend to do the sensible thing and buy a quality washing machine then you can do no better than THIS

I like the idea of ISE Jim, don’t get me wrong. But you cannot see one of these machines before you buy one, however the warranty is tempting, 10 years is just excellent.

There are other niggles though, it has no 70/75oC wash and I have no idea how well it rinses, I know it has a higher water level ( 😆 )and a 7 rinse option but I still have no idea if it will fill 1/3 up the door on rinse.

My current Bosch does 4 rinses 1/3 up the door, rinsing is very important as I have very sensitive skin, eczema and dermatitis, plus I am allergic to ALL detergents if not rinsed out properly.

I have experience of Miele, or rather my parents have and the machines are well built and perform well too and I can have a look at one before I buy one. I do get your point though. 😀

Oliver.

[kwatt]

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Higher-water-level wrote:I have experience of Miele, or rather my parents have and the machines are well built and perform well too and I can have a look at one before I buy one. I do get your point though. 😀

I appreciate your opinion Oliver and, you obviously have a lot more sense than a lot of people that think £2-300 will buy a decent washing machine these days as you have rightly pointed out, it won’t. Certainly for a family, forget it for that sort of money.

But, I have to make a comment on the quote above, I just have a need to do so. 😉

The problem there is the costs you don’t see.

Miele allegedly make shedloads out of aftercare service so, what you don’t pay up front you pay at the backend. It’s like a stealth tax only the media don’t bother to tell you about it. Neither does the seller.

From what I can gather and, it’s been reported on other sites other than this one, you can now have a Miele machine that reports a blocked drain pump (s an example) as a fault code and, although on most machines you can clear the blockage and reset the machine or, it just clears and works, the new Miele machines have to have an engineer reset it for you. What this means is that the machine won’t work until you pay Miele’s ransom demand to release the fault code, whatever that might be. But, it will most likely be in excess of £100 a shot.

So sure, you can go see a Miele in one of their approved showrooms but you can’t see the catches to the deal in the showroom. You do get glitzy lights and very often someone that knows as much about washing machines as I do about knitting.

Oh and that sort of failure, not covered by warranty in either domestic or commercial situations like most. but then, on most, you can sort it yourself for zero cost but, not with Miele apparently.

What I can assure of is this, the ISE 10 machines are built to at least match but, in most cases, exceed the performance of the equivalent Miele in general use but also to outlast them by being more durable. ISE take that a step further by making them repairable through cheaper spares and also cheaper service from more local and, usually, faster service.

I can also assure you that ISE offer as much support as possible to help people resolve any issue that you might have totally free of charge and, only when ISE can’t do that remotely, ISE they route the issue to an actual visit.

Kind of a thing, that ISE has a principal, not to make service a profit generator.

However, for those that that choose a Miele that’s absolutely fine as they are better than most of the “tat” out there. Whether they’re the best option or not, debatable.

Just FYi and that of others so it’s balanced. 😉

K.

[quickwash]

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Hi stevefisher,

I recently purchased a ise10 and it is by far the best washing machine that i have owned (and i’ve had a few :rolls: ) and their aftersales service is exceptional.

I too had considered a miele but, thankfully, after visiting washerhelp, found a link to ISE as i had heard about miele’s practices as mentioned by kwatt, very high part prices after any guarantee has expired (also if the purchaser is not careful to check, miele guarantees are not always available, they are used as a marketing tool, unlike ISE products which always carry a 10 year domestic guarantee) and then comes the problem as kwatt mentions, i read the call out for the fault codes to be removed even after you have say unblocked a filter yourself is £130 and most local engineers wont or cant fix newer model mieles as they require a diagnostic tool just to get rid of these fault codes!

I for one did not intend to pay £900+ for a washer just to line mieles pockets again somewhere down the line!! And they look damn old fashioned IMO too!

The ISE10 1607 washing machine is a superb bit of kit (read my previous posts) that ‘does what is says on the tin’, looks modern and very importantly, if maintenance or repair is required, is easy to fix with no mark-up on parts (unheard of in this day and age)

Just the opinion of one very 😀 customer.

I have also just purchased a vented zanussi tumble dryer for my outhouse details in my post (Vented tumble dryer for outhouse) as i will not be using the dryer much. If i had a higher usage i would have certainly have purchased the matching ISE10 dryer also with a 10 year domestic guarantee 🙂

sorry rambled on there 😳

best wishes

quickwash :plug:

PS – the washing machine and dryer section of the forum has shedloads more info 🙂

[DrDill]

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The debate about whether ISE or Miele is the better all round machine will never end, but in my opinion both have a 10 year warranty, if either fail after that and its a expensive repair (£100 +) which is feasable with either machine, then most customers will just bin it, its 10 years old, they wont even remember how much they paid just that its been a very good machine. Out they will go and buy a new one.

[stevefisher]

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thanks for all the advice and opinions, i now have a few options to consider 🙂 so will start looking…

[quickwash]

Re: washer/dryer recommendations please..

I beg to differ with DrDill, i have no intention of just dumping mine after 10 years, i had an indesit for 17 years 😯 and i know exactly what i paid for it 23 years ago!

If there was an expensive fault but the rest of the machine was still looking ok then i would get it fixed, these (ISE10) machines are made to last with spares being as cheap as possible and more easily fixed than a miele. That £100+ would be for fault codes to be removed ‘within’ guarantee as well because the drain pump being blocked is not covered. If pump was blocked on my ISE and i fixed it myself then i can remove any present fault code myself too, so as jimmy saville would say, ‘hows about that then’ 😆

The ISE10 is designed to last 8000 washes, thats 22 years at my usage, so time will tell. I will keep y’all posted, if the machine doesnt ‘outlive’ me that is :rotl:

stevefisher – hope my ramblings have been of interest, have a read of the ISE website and you will see why i was ‘tempted by the fruit on offer’ 😉

regards

quickwash :plug:

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