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Have I seen this before somewhere or was I dreaming?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40821915Steve
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Nah, won’t work! Theory is good but application not practical.
Back to the drawing board Kevin, unless that is if only we can find some heavy water….hmm?
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the larger container looks far too close to the rear of the cabinet as well as too close to the worktop for comfort. If their goal is to cut delivery lorry emissions then making a machine that lasts longer would be time better spent.
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sounds good but filling without spills and sealing to stop leaks or evaporation is another problem. Plus could you trust some users to remove and safely replace the lid would the manufacturers want to take that risk ?
wilf
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Nothing new under the sun as they say, wasn’t the Reason machine supposed to have water filled weights?
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Space is the problem.
Concrete or iron has a higher weight density so, especially large capacity machines that everyone seems to want to buy these days where space is at a real premium internally, the notion of taking up yet more space for weights just ain’t gonna happen.
Sorry, that’s the reality.
Then factor in cost.
If it costs more in a market where cost is at an even greater premium than space do you really think that manufacturers will spend more to please the media or whatever?
After that gets looked at in depth I’m pretty sure this will fall at that first hurdle.
But I hear some cry, what of all the environmental benefits touted in the media then with lower fuel costs for lorries and whatever?
Well, you need to think logically about the whole thing, not just focus on the bit that suits your premise.
I listened to the dude that supposedly came up with this today and it’s a plastic box (in effect) injection moulded I assume that has a silicon injected layer coating the internals to prevent leakages (ha ha) and apart from my thinking, “good luck with that on skinny front weights that break when you look at them wrong”. I thought, well that’s nice so instead of some natural rocks and stuff we’re going to use oil based synthetics that use a boatload of energy and water to make to replace what is a pretty efficient, tried and proven manufacturing process.
But more, they need to retool to do all that as well.
Then if you want the same capacities you need bigger cabinets… etc, etc.
Bigger cabinets = less on the truck in a container = (probably) zero net gain or even a reversal.
If you can as market forces might demonstrate you can’t as the things won’t fit in a standard slot or, you get more capacity with a machine using conventional weights so the market will just gravitate to that anyway.
I can see the poor old polar bears rolling their eyes now at the abject stupidity and poor research into the overall effects.
But heh, makes for a good story eh?
K.
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So the washing program starts with 25 litres of cold water in a tank on the top which will draw heat from the tub as it heats up and using more electricity as it does so.
That won’t do the energy ratings much good I think.Steve
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EFS wrote:So the washing program starts with 25 litres of cold water in a tank on the top…….”
Imagine the installation instructions:
Lift the rubber filler cap and using the plastic funnel (provided) slowly pour 25 litres (5.5 gallons) into the tank. As the top and bottom tanks are inter-connected allow sufficient time for all the air to escape first to avoid the danger of saturating the electronic components within (see Clause 13a of your guarantee exclusions) Please note the importance that all 25 litres must go into these tanks otherwise air pockets could develop making the machine unstable during normal operation.
If you intend installing the machine in an environment where the ambient temperature drops below 0 Celsius (32F) it is recommended to use a 5 to 1 mixture of water/antifreeze solution to avoid the containers swelling and falling off! 🙁
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…….but to be serious for a moment 😉 the whole point of this bo!!0cks is ‘saving weight in transit’. But there has been no emphasis on VOLUME in all this media tripe.
It takes one articulated truck to carry 70 cubic metres of polystyrene blocks the same as 70 cubic metres of washing machines. The payload greater, granted, but the saving in Co2 unfathomable.
Ship the same volume via rail and the difference incalculable.
Back to the drawing board Kevin! :rolls:
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Describing concrete as “natural rocks and stuff” is misleading, as if it was environmentally friendly.
The “stuff” is cement, the manufacture of which is one of the three main producers of carbon dioxide… see Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concrete# … and_healthHowever I agree the water filled weights sound completely barmy.
Probably means it will catch on… :rolls:
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