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[Alex]

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andy_art_trigg wrote:“dishwasher repair somerset” is a search term that no one is competing for. There is no site that I can find that is competing for it, so it’s one of those search terms that even a very badly designed page can get high on search engines for. In fact most of the ones brought up by Yahoo and Google are awful. With a bit of search engine otimizing, I recon you could dominate all the search engines for that term.

The same goes for “washing machine repairs somerset” etc etc.

There may be thousands of people who search for “washing machine repairs”, but they will be distributed all over the UK.

There’s just no pleasing some people.

Look, I’m happy with it, the old worked despite being very girly and amatuerish.

I don’t really need a website, but I was the 1st Service Force company that I know of to produce one & that was back in 1998. I have links through Service Force and all the appropriate makes as well as Yell.com It is on all my stationary and adverts/headed paper etc. The old site worked, and so does this one. I only use it as a cheap means of promoting what we do. It does what it says on the bloody tin.

I’ve never found a site for Andy Trigg, but there again I’ve never needed to look.

I will get the link to UKW attached in the fulness of time. At the moment I seem to be too busy defending my site against the odd one who still try & belittle it.

Alex

[Martin]

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Alex wrote:I will get the link to UKW attached in the fulness of time. At the moment I seem to be too busy defending my site against the odd one who still try & belittle it.

Easy Alex !

Steady on old chap! Your site is very good, no excellent in fact. I was just joking about the UKW link and stuff mate, no probs. Please don’t take any comments personally, certainly not from me 😉

Andy ‘The Art’ Trigg and Ken are whizz kids about websites so your posting was almost associated to the words BULL, RED, TO and RAG 😉

I have had the pleasure of meeting you Alex and I think your shoulders can stand the strain. Incidentally have you seen the mess Andy has created lately with his site 😉 (Joking again of course)

Martin

[kwatt]

I thought the new website was nice, clean and proffesional looking TBH with the added bonus of no cheesy music. 😉

As you say Alex, it does the job and projects an image that you want for your company, is there really any need to go further?

To be quite honest I actually believe that there is too much emphasis placed on web otimisation Andy, especially in the terms of a small business “here we are” website. In the end it all comes down to content as Google will tell you.

K.

[andy_art_trigg]

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So some people want a web site, they want it to look nice butas long as a few people see it, it doesn’t matter about all the other thousands? Fair enough.

My point was simple, it would take very little to make a site like that dominant for the search terms he was wanting on all the significant search engines which is what he implied he wanted and indeed expected.

I should have kept my nose out but I was actually trying to help and give advice. I only quoted my positions to show that I did know what I was talking about after I felt his reply was dismissive of my expertise and his “proof” was that the site does well for a particular search term that there’s no competition for.

K, I already agreed with your point in my last post. I just said that his site could dominate (in other words do much, much better) with just a little work.

[Alex]

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O.K. I’ll chill out a bit, no problem Martin, as your comments along with Ken’s & Dave’s has been complimentary. I’ll just say that someone else has touched a nerve. All I want is a pretty little site that does what I need. It works and I’m happy with it. It is still early days on the site; it went live at lunchtime yesterday, give it time & I’m confident it will cover my needs.

Google for example takes into account more than just the optimised content, and Google also looks a how many pages link to a site to get an idea of how popular the site is. This also makes a small 6 -10 page site struggle among the huge sites.

Perhaps Washer Help could put up a postcode direction field onto his site. This could send service calls or enquiries to us members, then when a customer realises that he/she may not be able to facilitate his/her own repair, or even worse become aware they may kill oneself, he/she will be directed to a professional. Andy has a good site, but we have staff to keep as well as a running operation and a business to maintain. Therefore what is paramount to us is to keep the customer, assure them they are getting a professional repair and moreover value for money with a guarantee. I do not advocate DIY or self-repair & particularly giving advice where electricity is involved. My grandmother used to say, “A little knowledge is a dangerous thing”.

Maybe I should hit the little Ignore button and get on with life.

Alex

[andy_art_trigg]

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Alex, I’m sorry I upset you with what you have seen as unecessary critisism. I did say that the site was a great improvement. I did consider emailing you privately about it but I like to do things in the forums where other people can see. I thought maybe someone else might be inspired to think about looking into making a few changes to improve their search engine ranking too.

I wasn’t talking about extensive changes or expensive changes. With the right knowledge it is surprisingly simple.

[andy_art_trigg]

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Martin wrote:To heck with web site optimisation, unless you have pages and pages of text, search engines will give you a lower ranking however much you try.

Actually this isn’t true Martin. Many pages get to number one with just one page and hardly any content. Some pages can also get to number one for a search and they only mention the term once.

[Martin]

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Alex wrote:
Perhaps Washer Help could put up a postcode direction field onto his site.

Good point ❓ How about it Andy 🙂

Martin

[Dave_Conway]

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Alex wrote:O.K. I’ll chill out a bit, no problem Martin, as your comments along with Ken’s & Dave’s has been complimentary.

I haven’t mentioned it yet 😉

I will now though.

It’s a very nice looking site and as long as you get a few hits and people can see what you do that’s all that is required. The Yell thing helps as well, and it’s only about £150 pa so no huge outlay there. Let Yell do the work and link to your own site, they become expensive only when you let them build you a single page and then tell you they will guarantee high rankings. Balls to that.

BTW, my ecommerce site which I haven’t done an awful lot with has already been indexed by Google, and it’s not even live yet.

Dave.

[andy_art_trigg]

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Martin wrote:

Alex wrote:

Perhaps Washer Help could put up a postcode direction field onto his site.

Good point ❓ How about it Andy 🙂

Martin

I’ve already written a full page dedicated to promoting DASA and its members and I link to the DASA members list from my site. The link is on the repair FAQ page, which has been visited 20,000 times this year so far. However, the dedicated page to DASA which can be viewed from this page has only been visited 552 times in the same period. Unfortunately most people are looking to fix their own these days, but at least there were 552 potential customers sent DASA’s way and 20,000 visiters may have read about DASA and remember where to come back if they need it in the future.

I am considering creating a list of washing machine repairers and linking to their sites for an advertising fee. If anyone is interested let me know and they may be the first ones listed. At this time though I can only consider DASA members, otherwise I can give no assurances that any vetting or accountability exists for my list, which would seriously undermine its validity.

[andy_art_trigg]

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Alex wrote:… when a customer realises that he/she may not be able to facilitate his/her own repair, or even worse become aware they may kill oneself, money with a guarantee. I do not advocate DIY or self-repair & particularly giving advice where electricity is involved. My grandmother used to say, ?A little knowledge is a dangerous thing?.

Alex

Anyone who sells spares to the public is advocating DIY repairs and making money out of them taking a “risk”. Ironically, few will give any advice whatsoever, preferring to leave them to blindly have a go.

The recent paper cutting that was sent to the mail list highlighted a DIY repairer who was killed because he forgot it was plugged in and reached inside. This is very tragic, and it made my heart sink, but the fact that he forgot it was plugged in is not rellevant to the fact that he was a DIYer is it? We’ve all done that haven’t we? We’ve all had shocks, and we are all professionals. Quite a few professional engineers have been killed also.

My DIY safety advice page advises –

“The most important thing to watch out for is becoming distracted, or so involved in the battle to fix the washing machine, that you forget it is plugged in (especially if you are constantly having to plug and unplug the machine while working on it and testing it.”

I would argue that the less information and advice people have, then the more potentially dangerous it is and that by selling parts but refusing advice is ironically putting customers at more risk than helping them. Surely a DIYer is less likely to get electrocuted than a complacen engineer who repairs dozens a week. Not getting electrocuted isn’t a skill that needs to be learnt, it’s pure common sense and respect for electricity.

[Martin]

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andy_art_trigg wrote: At this time though I can only consider DASA members

There you go guy’s! Yet another benefit for DASA members. 😉

Martin

[Alex]

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“andy_art_trigg
I’ve already written a full page dedicated to promoting DASA and its members and I link to the DASA members list from my site.

I am considering creating a list of washing machine repairers and linking to their sites for an advertising fee. If anyone is interested let me know and they may be the first ones listed. At this time though I can only consider DASA members, otherwise I can give no assurances that any vetting or accountability exists for my list, which would seriously undermine its validity.

O.K. Rant & Rave over, 1 bottle of Frascati later & I’m now seeing the benefit of this debate. I love an argument as well as a conciliatory solution.

Well done Andy for the DASA link, and YES please put leads to some of us on your site. If you get a bite of the cherry for the initial parts sale, so be it, after all the punter found you & not me. (Don’t remind me why or how). I’m all for us working together on this & I think we are fragmented enough throughout this land not to tread on each others toes.

I’m only too aware regards DIY as I’m in the business of selling spares, hence the website. There are those out there that would never dream of using the professional service of an engineer, that is why that person has taken his chosen route in buying the part himself. However I think there needs to be some progression from what Andy offers when the customer reaches the point of giving up. Of course we must not tell them, “Well you should have left it to someone who knows what they are doing”, we need to use it as a compliment to the service the customer has chosen, in this case washer-help.

So are we now moving on and can I be one of the 1st to ask Andy to consider adding a repairer to his site?

Alex.

[kwatt]

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andy_art_trigg wrote:it’s pure common sense and respect for electricity.

Sadly a thing that a great many of my customers appear to have a glaring lack of in the first instance leading to a potential killer in the absense of the second.

It’s world we live in Andy. 😕

K.

[andy_art_trigg]

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Martin wrote:

andy_art_trigg wrote:
At this time though I can only consider DASA members

There you go guy’s! Yet another benefit for DASA members. 😉

Martin

Sorry, I forgot to say that anyone vetted by their local authority is as good as a DASA member when it comes to recommending. Saying why not use one of these repairers – who have all paid me money to recommend them doesn’t carry much weight to me. But being able to say they have all been vetted by DASA or local authority does.

Of course whether this is a “benefit” is for anyone to decide themselves 🙂

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