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Did a HP machine this week, slug shorted the module causing the heater to come on with no water,
Its what happens when your machine in a porch
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have hotpoint removed the thermal fuses from the heater as it should have stopped that from happening.
bob.
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It’s a steam model Aqualtis so I don’t know if that means the thermal fuse is removed or higher rated as its an different heater to the normal ones they use.
I was told some years ago that the steam models could melt the tank if there was a problem.
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Looks like we have another design error cock-up in the making from the Indesit stable once again. :rolls:
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In all fairness the slug was the initial cause, it did stop by its self as well but was a hell of a mess though. I’m guessing there was a thermal fuse but due to it being a steam model it set higher, enough to melt the tank obviously.
The little slimy beggar was fried rite across the back of the board, i was only doing an inspection for the home insurance, I did make it quite clear of the reason was the machines location in a porch with the door almost always open, floor soaking wet, mud everywhere was was a farm
They thought that was a perfectly acceptable location.
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I saw all the straw on the ground so figured it wasn’t your workshop. 😉
Oddly the element doesn’t looked multicoloured as if it had glowed red hot? But for the tub to melt like that the element must have glowed red hot? Which begs the question, if there were embedded thermocouples then why did it get that hot before they should have blown?
Did you check to see if the heater was open circuit?
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No I did not but Iv got the tank on the van so i will check, took it with me for further inspection. we are waiting for go ahead on repair/replacement, needs all harnesses, board and tank, not going to be cheap repair mind.
The other odd part is its melted above the element but not directly below it. There were clothes in it but they don’t know if it was on a wash at the time as it was unattended when it happened and there are a number of people who use it, I’m just wondering if there was some water in there and it boiled dry rather than going with no water
The one other possibility is the wiring went up and not the heater, the board was that side and it was perfect apart for the slug, the motor & heater harness was completely melted together which is rite below the tank damage so perhaps its the wiring that went up ?
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Martin wrote:Looks like we have another design error cock-up in the making from the Indesit stable once again. :rolls:
One freak incident and its a design cock up. :rolls:
There is a risk of death in doing anything that gets the heart pump above 120, although I guess you already assessed the risk a decided to abstain.
I’d just got back from a walk with the dogs over some hills, took my life in my hands, how I made it back with so many dangers.
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madangler1 wrote:
The other odd part is its melted above the element but not directly below it. There were clothes in it but they don’t know if it was on a wash at the time as it was unattended when it happened and there are a number of people who use it, I’m just wondering if there was some water in there and it boiled dry rather than going with no water
Where the cloths fire damaged, possible they could have ignited with in the drum, caused a few flames, melted drum, took wiring out which fused the supply, the photo shows most damage external and away from the heater, I doubt the heater caused this, looks as though heat penetrated away from it and expanded outwards, like a pebble dropped in water the heat would expand similarly but stop around the heater area as the drum thickness is greater than the sides.
The inner drum shows melted debris near the heater in the photo, the burn pattern on the inner drum is upwards, that debris is the source of ignition, which would be above the heater, the plastic would have been damaged by flame as there is black around the drum, without inspecting the inside of the inner drum for damage its difficult to be sure from one photo.
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Yes there were some damaged clothes, most were removed by the time I got to it but some are stuck to the inner drum,
Its definitely an odd one this, I first assumed it was the heater, the slug definitely took out the board so that has to be the trigger
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madangler1 wrote: the motor & heater harness was completely melted together which is rite below the tank damage so perhaps its the wiring that went up ?
Clearly it was the motor then that caught fire. As for the red hot heater, that was just a red herring obviously. What part the slug played in this drama can only be conjecture.
What will Farmer Giles by now I wonder?
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most likley this little blighter martin
Field slug ? Derocerus reticulatumLight grey/fawn colour above, pale with a darker central zone below. Up to 4cm long. Feeds mainly above ground, but can feed at several centimetres down in the soil.
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Just an update on this heater OC motor is fine, it now looks like some rodent damage on the heater harnesses as well, hard to tell initially a was burnt but there is definite signs of chewed cables, perhaps the slug was a red herring, current trying to sort with the the insurance as it looks like they are trying to push it back to HP.
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Martin wrote:
Clearly it was the motor then that caught fire.
You did look at the photo ?
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madangler1 wrote:it now looks like some rodent damage…, the slug… a red herring,
It transpires then that there was a fully developed ecosystem within the cabinet with molluscs crawling everywhere, fed on by the red coloured large sardines in the bottom of the tank with rats cleaning up any waste produced by the others. Presumably the molluscs were finding an algal bloom of some sort on the surface of the module on which to feed.
I really can’t see this being repairable; it would take months to rebuild something that complex.
Mike.
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