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April 7, 2008 at 11:04 pm #191568
kwatt
KeymasterI don’t think there is one. π
I have to be careful on that front, until December 1st, not that I’m counting. π
K.
April 7, 2008 at 11:14 pm #191569iadom
ModeratorRe: Word Count
There was one, Chris linked to it in one of the mad sewing womans threads, the one about worms & detergents :rolls: I foolishly pointed out to Chris that I had already linked direct to the Simply web site so he removed his post. It was definitely a link to Simply in the new shop@ but he cannot find it either now. π
Jim.
April 7, 2008 at 11:15 pm #191570kwatt
KeymasterLeave it with me, I’ll see what I can do. π
K.
April 26, 2008 at 1:05 pm #191571kwatt
KeymasterRe: Word Count
Refrigeration one that might come in handy.
And I didn’t want to tell the prat that did the insulation that it’s likely got the quick on/off times as the insulation is friar tucked! π
K.
April 26, 2008 at 1:59 pm #191572Penguin45
ParticipantRe: Word Count
Mail……..
:p45:April 26, 2008 at 4:52 pm #191573kwatt
Keymaster:rolls:
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K.
April 26, 2008 at 5:17 pm #191574Penguin45
ParticipantRe: Word Count
What, what? That took me over an hour……. π
:popcorn:
Chris.
April 26, 2008 at 6:43 pm #191575iadom
ModeratorRe: Word Count
Speaking of word count et al,
After reading Kath, the mad sewing ladies post about the new ISE 5 user manual I have just had a very quick look at the first few pages, the word irreperable sort of leapt off page four but one other thing I did notice which may be a little confusing, the text refers to the ISE 2 and not the ISE 5 on at least three different pages.
Perhaps we should see if Lawrence will let Debbie loose on it.
Please, please don’t think that I am being funny or awkward about this, but to an old git like myself, presentation including spelling, grammar and syntax is very important despite what many under 35 year olds try and tell you. And I left school at the age of 15 with no qualifications whatsoever. π₯
Within the ISE family we should make full use of all of our people and resources, always assuming they are willing to participate of course.
Once again I must stress that I mean this to be helpful and constructive, I think I have proved that the ISE project is something I strongly believe in and care passionately about. I have the utmost respect for the people driving this project along, but I like to think we can ‘get it right’ in all areas.
I also appreciate the time constraints on things such as the brochures but in all honesty it would have only taken Debbie plus someone else a couple of hours to ‘tidy up’ the understandable mistakes that will always crop up with things like these.
By using the internet we can sort these things out in a very short time frame.
I say again, we have the people, lets use them.
8)Jim.
PS. I would like a few more brochures if there are any spare. π
April 26, 2008 at 7:18 pm #191576kwatt
KeymasterRe: Word Count
I know and I appreciate the checks TBH, I don’t take offence at all to it as when you write you know what you mean, whether others get it or not is hard to gauge. It is taken as constructive entirely.
As for spelling and whatnot the big issue with the brochures is that it is done in InDesign which has no spell checking or grammar filters and, whilst we know that they are not infallible by any stretch they do often save silly mistakes.
The brochure is being looked at further but the problem was that we really wanted it for the ISE5 coming online and that was the No.1 priority with it. As John says, 90{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} and now is better than 100{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} and too late. But it’s also the reason we did a short print run on them, so corrections could be made on reprint, if I’d done 10,000 I’d have been p1$$ed mightily! π
The instruction book, likewise, can be altered and yet again it was a time thing, I had three days to do it in two of which were over a weekend. The ISE2 one took two weeks to write.
I totally agree Jim, whether or not it is acknowledged by some it should be correct in both spelling and grammar but the pressure of timing negated the ability to have both totally checked. I didn’t want to place anyone else under that sort of pressure in all honesty, it’s fine you guys helping out and that is massively appreciated but I am not comfortable with giving you something as lengthy to check with about 24 hours to do it in, I don’t consider that fair as it’s not your problem.
I do try to get it right but I’m far from perfect.
I’ll get through the article ASAP Chris I just didn’t feel like it today after banging my head of a database that I’m trying to build so that ordering, stock levels and tech info are made a LOT easier for ISE.
K.
April 26, 2008 at 8:36 pm #191577iadom
ModeratorRe: Word Count
Slightly :offtopic: This section of the refrigeration article intrigued me.
When thermostats fail they will generally fail closed, that is to say that the compressor will run continuously and the unit will overfreeze.
If the machine is dead then, generally, look elsewhere for the problem.
I have never done system repairs other than in the old Hotpoint days when we used to change the whole system as a complete unit. I do still carry and fit the most common Hotpoint fridge stats such as the 261055 and I have to say that 90{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} of the time they fail O/C and the fridge is totally dead. π
Jim.
April 26, 2008 at 9:16 pm #191578kwatt
KeymasterOnly happens on a few, obviously Hotpoint, IME. Usually if the stat fails it fails open on most I’ve come across.
K.
April 26, 2008 at 9:56 pm #191579iadom
Moderatorkwatt wrote:Only happens on a few, obviously Hotpoint, IME. Usually if the stat fails it fails open on most I’ve come across.
K.
Now you really are confusing me, your article definitely says ‘they will generally fail closed’ , yet you now say ‘it fails open on most I’ve come across’. π π π
I would still say that O/C stats with the fridge completely dead outnumber faulty, closed stats causing overfreezing by a ratio of 9 to 1 in my limited experience.
Jim.
April 26, 2008 at 11:31 pm #191580kwatt
KeymasterRe: Word Count
It’s late, there’s vodka and orange juice as I’m on a health kick! π
Sorry I obviously confused myself never mind you. It should read that they generally fail closed so the compressor runs continuously leading to over-freezing. I will fix it.
I have never found many stats that failed open leading to a dead fridge freezer, or at least not on any non-UK ones.
I’ll revisit it when sobriety returns and give a little more info. I only wrote it ’cause that Doug bloke really pi$$ed me off not listening to sound advice. π
Next up, for tomorrow is sealed tanks, that should be a laugh, then link it into a sh1tload of other things.
K.
April 27, 2008 at 7:59 am #191581admin
KeymasterRe: Word Count
Control systems:
When thermostats fail they will generally fail closed, that is to say that the compressor will run continuously and the unit will overfreeze.
Thermostats normally fail open circuit as the phile has corroded and released the pressurised gas. IMO.i agree with Iadom with the failure open circuit.
Refrigerant gas:
If the system had a leak from new then it will fail within 12 months.
Refrigerant leaks will show up within 3 months, R600a leaks within 2 weeks.
Basics:
With that said what manufacturers use is a βmeanβ temperature or an average
After 24 hours running and the item must be in the refrigerator for 24 hrs.
Basics/Insulation:
90{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} of all refrigeration now need an ambient temprature of approx +15oc
or else they will not work correctly and may defrost and switch off on not switch back on until it warms back up.As for the ISE 5 manual.We could let Katie loose on it with her red marker pen. π
Bryan
April 27, 2008 at 9:34 am #191582kwatt
KeymasterThere, done I think. π
K.
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